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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry, Jim, way too simplistic. I can’t let you off that easy, with all due respect.

You’ve been placed in charge of a racially and economically diverse city, of 8 or 9 million. You’re in charge of the police force. People are dying around you. You have to take practical measures with the existing laws to change them and reduce crime.

The world we live in is highly complex. To navigate this reality with competence is the essence of wisdom.

Here’s another “for instance”: In NYC, as Mayor, would you allow anyone without a criminal record to own any kind of gun they desired? Would they have to register it? What restrictions, if any, would you place an ownership and registration (you can say ‘none’ if you like)? Do


10 posted on 04/25/2007 4:01:26 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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To: Silly

Please read the 2nd Ammendment and tell me where it says the government can regulate handguns for ANY reason.

It specifically says it CAN’T.


12 posted on 04/25/2007 4:04:44 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Silly

Hey, the second amendment is the rule of law. You don’t like it, amend it or repeal it. Good luck with that. Even then, the right to self-defense is an unalienable right and a person still has the right to keep and bear arms. If you can’t stand the danger of living in a big city and don’t wish to arm yourself, move out! Any mayor who violates the constitution and violates your unalienable individual right to self-defense by grabbing your guns on the pretense of public safety (or for any other reason whatsoever) is a power abusing liberal. Rudy is a power abusing liberal. Get over it.


16 posted on 04/25/2007 4:11:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Silly

Rudy is perfect for NY City...but not for the country. at the time he came into office NYC was a cesspool mismanaged by the ‘dink’.

But he is so anti-individual freedom, as to be unelectable in the national Republican primaries.

He should consider Senator from NY. he would be more conservative than either Putzhead or Shrillary...an improvement as it were.

I would not however want him for NY Governor either. He would get rubber stamped by the Republican state senate and it would be all his liberal baggage(gun control, gay marriage, etc.) being approved by both houses. look at it like this... Cuomo couldnt get any anti gun bills past the state senate, but Pataki (that little two faced turd)could and did with the help of Joe Bruno who backed his party’s governor.


18 posted on 04/25/2007 4:12:57 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Silly
You’ve been placed in charge of a racially and economically diverse city, of 8 or 9 million. You’re in charge of the police force. People are dying around you. You have to take practical measures with the existing laws to change them and reduce crime.

The single most effective method for crime reduction has shown to be an increase in the size of the police force. Couple that with Bratton/Giuliani's philosophy of enforcing petty crime, and that would be my strategy.

Notice that gun control is not necessary to enact either of those two measures.

38 posted on 04/25/2007 5:00:25 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Silly; Jim Robinson

Not piling on here - but you have to realize that one of the reasons criminals feel free to attack people is that they don’t expect the average person to be carrying. If you remove the restrictions from law abiding citizens, at the very least, it would cause a mugger to stop and think about it. They could be taking their lives in their hands by attacking someone if that someone is armed. I’m with Jim on this one. If you’re a law abiding citizen, you should have a right to carry. Period.


70 posted on 04/25/2007 6:05:36 AM PDT by StarCMC (Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
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To: Silly

“...would you allow anyone without a criminal record to own any kind of gun they desired?”

Yes. Why not?


211 posted on 04/25/2007 3:43:40 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Silly; Jake The Goose
Here’s another “for instance”: In NYC, as Mayor, would you allow anyone without a criminal record to own any kind of gun they desired? Would they have to register it? What restrictions, if any, would you place an ownership and registration.

Let's make this simple: anyone who is 18/21, not a convicted felony and hasn't been declared mentally incompetent by a judge can own a handgun, shotgun or rifle. Simple enough. Giuliani's anti-second amendment ways are at odds with the vast majority of the party, be it the moderates, conservatives or even the libertarian wing of the republican party.

217 posted on 04/26/2007 4:00:45 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: Silly
The Second Amendment wasn’t written for selective regions. New Yorkers should be able to own a weapon for protection if they wish.

The Sullivan Laws have made gun ownership very difficult for the average man or woman. They should be nuked like the ones in DC. In Arizona, I can strap on a holster and walk down the street. I used to do it.

There should never be a time you cannot use a firearm to defend your home and family, in NYC or anywhere else. And you shouldn’t have to ask your local cops for permission.

325 posted on 04/28/2007 11:32:23 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Silly
I agree with you. The one thing these guy’s cannot do is point to anything that their guy has accomplished. Rudy may not be the best candidate Republicans can front for this election, but He has certainly accomplished alot an has done much for NYC
333 posted on 04/30/2007 5:29:43 AM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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