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Food safety worries mount-(45 people ate contaminated pork,millions eat what else)
chicago tribune ^ | Published April 29, 2007 | By Stephen J. Hedges and Mary Ann Fergus

Posted on 04/29/2007 7:48:23 AM PDT by Flavius

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To: snowsislander

” this seems to me a remarkable statement from the FDA.”

“...it is not known to accumulate in the hogs.. “
But, then they contradict themselves.
“ even if present in pork, pork is only a small part of the average American diet.”
So..it might accumulate, it might not, but, it’s no problem since most people don’t eat a lot of pork.
Too bad the government isn’t putting as much effort into this, as they do trying to stop people from pirating CDs and DVDs.
Don’t know if you are a pet owner-but, the list of recalled pet foods grows and grows every day-it’s amazing that it isn’t getting more publicity.


21 posted on 04/29/2007 9:19:53 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Flavius

They had to buy cheap Chinese wheat because American farmers are just no-good welfare farmers. It isn’t important where we get our food, as long as it is cheap. Who cares about safety or security? >S<


22 posted on 04/29/2007 9:22:37 AM PDT by tiki
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To: snowsislander
it seems to be also be the polar opposite of their usual policy with regard to drug testing.

It is, and it's time for their drug testing policy to change.

23 posted on 04/29/2007 9:38:36 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Flavius

I want to see legislation that gives the FDA power to fine (in large dollars) those who are not aware of what is in the ingredients they use to assure the food we eat is safe. For example: If a food company such as Nestle uses products from China—screw China—fine Nestle for not being aware of what they are purchasing, let Nestle deal with China and their purchase. Maybe then our food companies would test their own products and monitor themselves “before” not after animals or people get sick from their save-a-dollar at the expense of the American people pattern. What I saw in the hearings the other day is more FDA participation in the discovery process. In my opinion that allows potential for bad food and puts the safety of our food second.


24 posted on 04/29/2007 9:48:50 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Flavius

This story has legs. Too bad for the Chinese food export business.


25 posted on 04/29/2007 9:50:33 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: tiki
They had to buy cheap Chinese wheat because American farmers are just no-good welfare farmers. It isn’t important where we get our food, as long as it is cheap. Who cares about safety or security? >S<

No kidding, life is full of risks (unless you're a stockholder apparently) and poisonous food from China is just one of those risks. [/more sarc]
26 posted on 04/29/2007 10:11:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Flavius
For our own safety the ‘Country Of Origin’ law should be passed as a non-omnibus and no strings attached law. If it’s more than a double spaced page and a half then it will be filled with legal loopholes for the special interests. Not only should the country where the product is mixed (made in USA) But the label should include the country of origin of all the ingredients and additives. Only then can we the consumers make good decisions as what to do with our money.
27 posted on 04/29/2007 10:17:39 AM PDT by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: Flavius

According to the government, this is all HOGWASH!!!!!!!


28 posted on 04/29/2007 10:44:31 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: mom4kittys

Duncan Hunter has been warning about the dangers of trade with China for a decade or longer!


29 posted on 04/29/2007 10:47:48 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
LOL

Do you eat tuna fish?

Mercury compounds will accumulate in your body fat, as will lead and other heavy metals - yet the FDA allows sale of tuna with only the warning “to not eat it more than twice a week” - I hear no fuss about that.

Eating the contaminated food directly and eating an animal that ate the food are two different thing IMO.

Do you eat off of plates marked Melmac?
(Melmac (brand), a brand name of dinnerware molded from melamine resin )

Do you eat from vintage plates marked Fiesta dinnerware?
Best not to use the red bowls.
(The red color was achieved by adding uranium oxide in the glaze - measurements have indicated that by weight, up to 14 % of the glaze might be uranium.

How much glaze was employed per plate is unclear but it has been estimated that a single plate contains 4.5 grams of uranium (Buckley et al). Piesch et al estimated the glaze thickness at 0.2 mm.)

The list could go on - tainted food has been around as long as the food industry in the US.

Remember the Upton Sinclair book that was required reading back in school? The Jungle?

Written as Socialist / Labor screed, it did start the FDA.

30 posted on 04/29/2007 10:51:44 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: snowsislander

> Since that seems to be the exact opposite stance of their usual regime for new and unknown drugs, this seems to me a remarkable statement from the FDA.

People are being paid off. Mark my words.

Throw out EVERY politician who takes one RED cent from the ChiComs!


31 posted on 04/29/2007 11:22:48 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: ASOC

> Written as Socialist / Labor screed, it did start the FDA.

Unfortunately, if the GOP and we conservatives don’t do anything about it, we will be rightly tarred as being ineffectual on this issue, again, letting the left own it and get credit for it and get support for their other poisonous ideas.

But they’re too busy being on the take from the ChiComs to do anything. Yes, the GOP. Many of them care more about money than America, sad to say. And of course nothing at all is happening in Congress because the Dims too are on the take, as well as being in an anti-Bush subpoena frenzy with no time for actual legislation.


32 posted on 04/29/2007 11:28:42 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: cripplecreek
The poison distribution system seems to be working nicely.

Look at the bright side. It's small government, laissez-faire capitalism in action.

33 posted on 04/29/2007 11:33:29 AM PDT by Wolfie
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By David Barboza and Alexei Barrionuevo The New York Times
Sunday, April 29, 2007

American food safety regulators trying to figure out how an industrial chemical called melamine contaminated so much pet food in the United States might come to this heavily polluted city in Shandong Province in the northern part of the country.

Here at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Group factory, huge boiler vats are turning coal into melamine, which is used to create plastics and fertilizer.

But the leftover melamine scrap, small acorn-sized chunks of white rock, is then being sold to local entrepreneurs, who say they secretly mix a powdered form of the scrap into animal feed to artificially enhance the protein level.

The melamine powder has been dubbed “fake protein” and is used to deceive those who raise animals into thinking they are buying feed that provides higher nutrition value.

“It just saves money,” says a manager at an animal feed factory here. “Melamine scrap is added to animal feed to boost the protein level.”

The practice is widespread in China. For years animal feed sellers have been able to cheat buyers by blending the powder into feed with little regulatory supervision, according to interviews with melamine scrap traders and agricultural workers here.

But now, melamine is at the center of a massive, multinational pet food recall after it was linked earlier this month to the deaths and injuries of thousands of cats and dogs in the United States and South Africa.

No one knows exactly how melamine - which had not been believed to be particularly toxic - became so fatal in pet food, but its presence in any form of American food is illegal.

U.S. regulators are now headed to China to figure out why pet food ingredients imported from here, including wheat gluten, were contaminated with high levels of the chemical.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has banned imports of wheat gluten from China and ordered the recall of over 60 million packages of pet food. And last week, the agency opened a criminal investigation in the case and searched the offices of at least one pet food supplier.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture also stepped in Thursday, ordering more than 6,000 hogs to be quarantined or slaughtered after some of the pet food ingredients laced with melamine were accidentally sent to hog farms in eight states, including California.

Scientists are now trying to determine whether melamine could be harmful to human health.

The huge pet food recall is raising questions in the United States about regulatory controls at a time when food supplies are increasingly being sourced globally. Some experts complain that the FDA is understaffed and underfunded, making it incapable of safeguarding America’s food supply.

“They have fewer people inspecting product at the ports than ever before,” says Caroline Smith DeWaal, director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington. “Until China gets programs in place to verify the safety of their products, they need to be inspected by U.S. inspectors. This open-door policy on food ingredients is an open invitation for an attack on the food supply, either intentional or unintentional.”

The pet food case is also putting China’s agricultural exports under greater scrutiny because the country’s dubious food safety record and history of excessive antibiotic and pesticide use.

In recent years, for instance, China’s food safety scandals have involved everything from fake baby milk formulas and soy sauce made from human hair, to instances where cuttlefish were soaked in calligraphy ink to improve their color and eels were fed contraceptive pills to make them grow long and slim.

China’s government disputes any suggestion that melamine from the country could have killed pets. But Friday, regulators here banned the use of melamine in vegetable proteins made for export or for use in domestic food supplies.

Yet it is clear from visiting this region of northern China is that for years melamine has been quietly mixed into Chinese animal feed and then sold to unsuspecting farmers as protein-rich pig, poultry and fish feed.

Many animal feed operators advertise on the Internet seeking to purchase melamine scrap. And melamine scrap producers and traders said in recent interviews that they often sell to animal feed makers.

“Many companies buy melamine scrap to make animal feed, such as fish feed,” says Ji Denghui, general manager of the Fujian Sanming Dinghui Chemical Company. “I don’t know if there’s a regulation on it. Probably not. No law or regulation says ‘don’t do it,’ so everyone’s doing it. The laws in China are like that, aren’t they? If there’s no accident, there won’t be any regulation.”

Most local feed companies do not admit that they use melamine. But last Friday here in Zhangqiu, a fast-growing industrial city southeast of Beijing, a pair of animal feed producers explained in great detail how they purchase low-grade wheat, corn, soybean or other proteins and then mix in small portions of nitrogen-rich melamine, whose chemical properties give a bag of animal feed an inflated protein level under standard tests.

Melamine is the new scam of choice, they say, because urea - another nitrogen-rich chemical that works similarly - is illegal for use in pig and poultry feed and can be easily tested for in China as well as the United States.

“If you add it in small quantities, it won’t hurt the animals,” said one animal feed entrepreneur whose name is being withheld to protect him from prosecution.

The man - who works in a small animal feed operation that consists of a handful of storage and mixing areas - said he has mixed melamine into animal feed for years.

He said he was not currently using melamine, which is actually made from urea. But he then pulled out a plastic bag containing what he said was melamine powder and said he could dye it any color.

Asked whether he could create an animal feed and melamine brew, he said yes, he has access to huge supplies of melamine. Using melamine-spiked pet food ingredient was not a problem, he said, even thought the product would be weak in protein.

“Pets are not like pigs or chickens,” he said casually, explaining that cheating them on protein won’t matter. “They don’t need to grow fast.”

The feed seller makes a heftier profit because the substitute melamine scrap is much cheaper than purchasing soy, wheat or corn protein.

“It’s true you can make a lot more profit by putting melamine in,” said a second animal feed seller here in Zhangqiu. “Melamine will cost you about $1.20 per ton for each protein count whereas real protein costs you about $6, so you can see the difference.”

Few people outside of agriculture know about melamine here. The Chinese media, which is strictly censored, has not reported much about melamine or the pet food recall overseas. And no one in agriculture here seems to believe that melamine is particularly harmful to animals or pets in small doses.

A man named Jing, who works in the sales department at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Group, said Friday that melamine scrap prices had been rising but he was not aware of how the company’s product was being used.

“We have an auction for melamine scrap every three months,” he said. “I haven’t heard of it being added to animal feed. It’s not for animal feed.”

David Barboza reported from Zhangqiu and Alexei Barrionuevo reported from Chicago. Rujun Shen also contributed reporting.


34 posted on 04/29/2007 11:36:53 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: AuntB

That is wonderful to hear!!!


35 posted on 04/29/2007 1:11:06 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: BenLurkin
One question: WHEN is the FDA going to embargo all further shipments of wheat gluten and rice protein from China?
36 posted on 04/29/2007 2:52:25 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: Flavius

Growing more of my own this year. I’m really going on a boycott anything I am not sure if it could be Chinese.


37 posted on 04/29/2007 3:19:30 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BenLurkin
Melamine is not considered a human health concern, but there is no scientific data on the health effects of melamine combined with the other compounds.

Idiots. Of course they're saying that. They don't want to deal with the fallout if they admitted they blew it. If it kills animals, it can kill people. We're not THAT different.

38 posted on 04/29/2007 3:21:13 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ASOC
Remember the Upton Sinclair book that was required reading back in school? The Jungle?

Small world - I got that book a few weeks ago for my grandson - it's become his favorite.

39 posted on 04/29/2007 8:13:02 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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To: acoulterfan; neverdem
No one knows exactly how melamine - which had not been believed to be particularly toxic - became so fatal in pet food, but its presence in any form of American food is illegal.

Maybe this story is about to get bigger - much bigger...

40 posted on 04/29/2007 8:15:44 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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