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Why you should NOT believe Tenet
VIDEO : CIA cover up ^ | 04 29 2007 | drzz

Posted on 04/29/2007 8:31:15 AM PDT by drzz

The CIA has been fighting the Bush administration since 9/11.

9/11 proved the monumental incompetence of the CIA, and its weakness in the post Cold War era.

What the CIA is doing right now, by giving false "leaks" to help the Democrats rewriting history, is to erase this shameful period.

Edward J. Epstain raised questions about the reliability of the CIA about the WTC 1993 case :

"BY EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN Wall Street Journal, Wednesday, March 21, 2007

Last week Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) admitted to having been responsible for planning no fewer than 28 acts of terrorism, including the horrific September 11 attacks, from "A to Z." The sensational confession, made during a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, raises a number of serious questions--most pointedly about the decision of the 9/11 Commission to rely on the CIA for information about this terrorist leader, who was captured in 2003.

Although the 9/11 Commission identified KSM as a key witness in the World Trade Center and Pentagon, it never was allowed to question him or his CIA interrogators. Instead, the staff received briefings from a CIA "project manager"--who was himself briefed by other CIA case officers on what KSM had putatively revealed during his interrogation. As the 9/11 Commission chairmen noted, this was "third-hand" information; but it allowed the CIA to fill in critical gaps in the commission's investigation. Now KSM's claims throw this reliance on the CIA into question."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009814


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; cia; clintonista; clintonmole; congress; iraq; mole; tenet; wot
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1 posted on 04/29/2007 8:31:17 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

Tenet presided over the largest, most deadly intelligence failure in US History on 9/11. He then went on to screw up the intelligence on Iraq. Now, to escape blame for historic incompetency, he does what all Democrats do, blame Republicans in a book. All the while knowing the dishonest, disgraceful media in this country will help him in his mission. What a total POS this guy is.


2 posted on 04/29/2007 8:35:09 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia; drzz

His beef is rather weak. he objects to the phrase “slam-dunk” and the implication that it was a green light for war, but neglects to explain how it was that he kept his job at CIA after the worst terrorist attack in American history (one in which the intelligence community was seemingly well aware was possible, if only somone connected the dots), and also fails to explain why the most sophisticated intelligence-gathering organization on the planet was so far off-base vis-a-vis WMD.

The “Cheney had it in for Saddam from Day One” defense doesn’t cover it, George. Neither does the argument over the semantics of “slam-dunk”. How about you explain yourself about something that actually matters: like how you managed to stay employed after such shocking incompitence and how you managed to run a premier intelligence organization in to the ground?


3 posted on 04/29/2007 8:39:53 AM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
The failure about Iraq and the failure about 9/11 is the same.

As you may discover in the video linked, it is no surprise the CIA first denies any Iraq-Al-Qaeda involvement in 2002, after it was pressed by the Bush government to show the real findings of the agency, and the numerous ties between Iraq and Al-Qaeda.

I have been studied this question for years, and the first conclusion I reached was : there is no “failure” of intelligence before Iraq. If you look closely at the facts, you will realize Iraq had WMD’s, that most were driven to Syria, according to intelligence gathered after the war. You will realize also that Saddam’s regime was the worst terrorism epicenter of the world.

And the fact we don’t know this, and that the US establishment is covering this story up, it is because Saddam’s “greatest and deadliest terrorism network in the world” (Senate Intelligence Committee, 1991), attacked America several times, outside and inside, before the US finally responded.

To summarize the whole, the United States suffered about 3’200 dead and 2’200 wounded in the 1993 attacks in New York, 1998 African embassies, 2000 USS Cole and 9/11 attacks, all strikes led by Iraq if you follow the trail of the evidences.

Don’t be fooled, the story of the terrorist network made by individuals, paid by individuals and led by individuals without any state’s involvement is pure joke.

In other words, the US establishment led by Clinton let US soldier being killed several times before the Bush administration finally attacked Al-Qaeda and its sponsor, Iraq.

Today Al-Quaeda n-1 sponsor is Iran.

That’s what Tenet is hiding.

4 posted on 04/29/2007 8:49:07 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz
Although the 9/11 Commission identified KSM as a key witness in the World Trade Center and Pentagon

Their report says that he planned the attacks.
5 posted on 04/29/2007 8:55:11 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: drzz

Easy. Why should anyone believe a rat?


6 posted on 04/29/2007 8:57:48 AM PDT by TADSLOS (W.T. Sherman had it right.)
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To: P-40

No, absolutely not.

The 9/11 Commission report says Mohammed had numerous contacts with Ramzi Yousef, the 1993 attacks mastermind, but was not aware of the attacks.

Now, the testimony of Mohammed himself proves the contrary. And without surprise, this testimony was released by the army (Gitmo), not by the CIA.


7 posted on 04/29/2007 8:58:54 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

Are you talking about the 1993 attacks or the 2001 attacks? The 9/11 Commission Report deal with...9/11.


8 posted on 04/29/2007 9:02:53 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: drzz

“Instead, the staff received briefings from a CIA “project manager”—who was himself briefed by other CIA case officers on what KSM had putatively revealed during his interrogation. ....”

Well, if I can’t trust third or fourth hand information, what can I trust? ;-)


9 posted on 04/29/2007 9:03:22 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: TADSLOS

Did you see the video linked.

You can easily see that there is a problem about the new official version about Iraq. See these contradictions between the most believe truth among Americans and the facts :

A) To say Iraq was a secular regime and despised Al-Quaeda is provably untrue. Saddam got extremist religions in 1991, he built several mosques, organized religious ceremonies, added the words “God is Great” to the Iraqi flag and ordered his founded-secular Baathist regime to honor the islamic scripture.

One of the Iraqi reporter Steven Vincent met in 2003 told him : “because of Saddam, tribalism and religious fundamentalism took root in Iraq where they never were before.”

B) The 9/11 Commission says Al-Quaeda and Saddam’s officials attended meetings. The SSCI report of september 2006 denies any ties between Iraq and Al-Quaeda, contradicting the 9/11 report.


10 posted on 04/29/2007 9:15:25 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz


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11 posted on 04/29/2007 9:16:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... In FReeP We Trust ...)
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To: P-40

Yes, but it relies to the CIA about the 1993 attacks.

And the debate is about the CIA reliability.


12 posted on 04/29/2007 9:17:14 AM PDT by drzz
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In 1999, at the time that the KSM group was planning for the second attack on the World Trade Center, the 9-11 Commission reported that “Iraqi officials offered Bin Laden a safe haven in Iraq.” Was this sanctuary offer part of a collaborative relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda

http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/911book.htm


13 posted on 04/29/2007 9:19:50 AM PDT by drzz
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In 1996, Iraq and Al-Quaeda signed a treaty to avoid any agression between the two and promote support of each other.

In 1998, Saddam Hussein said in a tape released to the American public in 2006: “I told the Americans, I told the British, an attack with WMD’s against America is coming, but not from Iraq.”

In 1999, Atta began to meet an Iraqi intelligence operative in Prague.

On Spring 2001, Virginians farmers were interrogated and filmed several times by Atta’s plotters who were interested by the capabiliy of agricultural planes to transport chemical agents.

On June 2001, 9-11 plotter Ahmed Al-Aznawi was brought to the emergency room of Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where he was healed for a bad wound in the leg, later identified as a wound made by chemical anthrax.

On September 11, 2001, 3’000 Americans were killed in terrorist attacks.

On September 12, 2001, Uday Hussein wrote a column in a Baathist paper, praising “chemical attacks that can be brought by individuals.”

On September 18 until October 9, 2001, letters with chemical agents named “anthrax” were delivered across the country.


14 posted on 04/29/2007 9:36:13 AM PDT by drzz
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

You offered, “Tenet presided over the largest, most deadly intelligence failure in US History on 9/11.” Don’t be so quick to give the lying clintinoid cover ... the clintons wanted to cover up anything intel found that might call for direct action by the clinton administration and the tenet rat did as he was instructed to do and continued to do the same for his degenerate god even after the Bush election. When the CIA is giving cover to the administation by ignoring intel they receive or filing away in dead file things that call for action, that’s hardly an ‘intelligence failure’.


15 posted on 04/29/2007 9:40:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: drzz

In 1993 I would have relied a lot more on what the CIA had to say about the region since we had quite a few ‘boots on the ground’ there; a short time later we had very few. In the case of Iraq, none...for years. I have not read Tenet’s book to see how he addresses this; it was already covered in detail by the 9/11 Commission.


16 posted on 04/29/2007 9:46:01 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Yes, Republicans in the Bush admininistration are never to blame for anything. They are god-like.


17 posted on 04/29/2007 10:07:52 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Ever notice how Democrats NEVER backstabbed Clinton about his many failures? Republicans hardly ever stick together.


18 posted on 04/29/2007 10:14:32 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Jen's Mom; Tut

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19 posted on 04/29/2007 10:14:57 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: drzz
Great video!

Bump

20 posted on 04/29/2007 10:15:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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