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Private Screening of "Islam vs. Islamists", the movie PBS doesn't want you to see 5/1
New YOrk Young Republican Club ^ | April 30, 2006 | Ron Lewenberg

Posted on 04/30/2007 3:44:17 AM PDT by rmlew

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To: WesternCulture

That’s a good point you make about the Gap countries blaming other countries for their failures rather than trying to learn from them. A counterterrorism expert, Randy Borum cites this cycle of recognizing a problem (it’s not right), comparing this problem to other countries (it’s not fair), attributing blame (it’s your fault), and stereotyping (you’re evil) as one of the biggest causes of international terrorism.


21 posted on 04/30/2007 6:51:22 AM PDT by glennshepard (Semper Fi, Beat Army)
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To: maverickusna2009
Thanks for telling me about Rany Borum!

Blaming other nations, ethic groups and financial forces for the misery found in one own country is in fact very common among incompetent leaders throughout the world.

Just look at the regime of Syria which encourages their subjugates to ‘protest’ against the Danish cartoons. I can see why they wish people to direct their frustrations and anger toward foreigners instead of asking themselves who’s to blame for all of the domestic problems.

22 posted on 04/30/2007 9:24:43 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: maverickusna2009
the vast majority of Muslims are obviously not extremists - a point lost on many Americans

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ho, gaggg!
23 posted on 04/30/2007 9:28:51 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: maverickusna2009
It’s good to see this sort of thing...the vast majority of Muslims are obviously not extremists - a point lost on many Americans, I fear. Assymetric conflicts, such as GWOT, require an incredible amount of cultural understanding to win and this sort of video helps in that understanding.

Accurate, but misleading statements.
Yes, the vast majority of muslims are not active terrorists, but for each active one there must exist 100 in direct support, and another 1000 complicit through silence.
The terrorist support system, as it were.

Yes, there is an incredible amount of ignorance required to deflect the discussion from reality to "understanding". The reality is islam, all of them, mean to kill us. They say it every day, none of them actively deny it in constant and meaningful ways, and I believe the killers.

24 posted on 04/30/2007 11:33:17 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; Clemenza; Yehuda; PARodrig; firebrand; nutmeg; neverdem; ...

ping


25 posted on 04/30/2007 11:37:38 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

I just called to make a reservation. It’s free, by the way.


26 posted on 04/30/2007 11:47:57 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: juliej; Tabi Katz; Dad yer funny; Doctor Raoul

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27 posted on 04/30/2007 11:50:20 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Publius6961

“The reality is islam, all of them, mean to kill us.”

That is not true to the slightest degree.


28 posted on 04/30/2007 1:02:24 PM PDT by glennshepard (Semper Fi, Beat Army)
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To: firebrand

Darn! Gotta work. I’d love to see the movie, although I have my doubts about “moderate Muslims.” Assuming that term is used to mean non-violent, it’s clear that the vast majority of them are either Muslim by birth only or so terrified of their brethren that they dare not speak up. If Jews, Christians, Hindus, or even atheists were going around killing people to advance their ideology, they’d be condemned by their own so quickly the rest of the world wouldn’t have to bat an eyelash.

Still, I look forward to hearing your report.


29 posted on 04/30/2007 1:12:14 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: firebrand

Thanks!


30 posted on 04/30/2007 1:14:11 PM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: maverickusna2009

It doesn’t have to be “all” of them: it could be 1% and that is sufficient to destroy us. Where is the “silent majority” I hear about? They should be out protesting and stating that the lunatics don’t represent them. I take their silence as complicity.


31 posted on 04/30/2007 2:19:06 PM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: Cacique

thanks, bfl


32 posted on 04/30/2007 2:44:26 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: juliej

Read Khaled Abu El-Fadl’s “The Place of Tolerance in Islam.”


33 posted on 04/30/2007 3:02:44 PM PDT by glennshepard (Semper Fi, Beat Army)
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To: maverickusna2009
"...the vast majority of Muslims are obviously not extremists..."

Not yet, anyway.

I'm afraid it doesn't take a whole lot to turn them into extremists, and that's the problem I have with Islam in general. We have seen it happen over and over again. The description of a moderate Muslim for some reason or another going bonkers and kill even their close associates and friends (roommates). Hmmm, that reminds me of the pit-bull threads.

34 posted on 04/30/2007 3:14:53 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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To: semaj

“moderate Muslim for some reason or another going bonkers and kill even their close associates and friends (roommates)”

Change Muslim to Christian and you have the Virginia Tech killer. Marginalizing and categorizing the Muslim world as extremists only hampers our war effort. Assymetric conflicts like this demand that we co-opt the “neutral population” (ie, those who do not support either the West or the terrorists, which is by far the biggest portion of the Muslim world). In order to do so, we cannot afford to alienate them.


35 posted on 04/30/2007 3:21:32 PM PDT by glennshepard (Semper Fi, Beat Army)
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To: maverickusna2009

The days of limited Moslem tolerance of infidels ended a long time ago. You don’t want to be a Christian in Indonesia and forget about being a Jew in most of the Moslem world.


36 posted on 04/30/2007 6:12:59 PM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: rmlew

Please forward this.


37 posted on 04/30/2007 7:49:09 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: rmlew

The MSM has been rather silent on PBS censoring this film.


38 posted on 04/30/2007 7:53:47 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: Wheee The People

That’s because there is nothing to see here and you should just move along.


39 posted on 04/30/2007 8:09:39 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: maverickusna2009
That is not true to the slightest degree.

Welcome to planet Earth...

Let us fill you in on the last 40 years...

40 posted on 04/30/2007 10:01:02 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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