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To: WesternCulture

A major problem concerning the struggle to make the Muslim World more democratic is that most Muslim’s don’t want our help in this field, while there, simultaneously, is little that Muslim friends of democracy CAN do on their own against Islamofascist leaders like those residing in Tehran.

I would point out that in the last elections in Malaysia & Indonesia the Islamist parties lost...badly very badly. in Malaysia they held onto their seats (in the north) by 1% of the vote.
(I posted an article on this at the time and I could find it if you want I suppose).

What we see with “Islam vs. Islamists: Voices From the Muslim Center” is part of the problem, the lack of PR both here and in the media) on the fact that the vast majority of Muslims don’t buy into Salafiism/Wahhabism.

(Note: No where have I said there are no problems inside Islam. I would never say anything quite so silly)


15 posted on 04/30/2007 5:53:22 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
Speaking of this, I guess the Muslim country with the strongest opposition to ‘Islamism’ is Turkey. In Turkey it’s even forbidden to propagate for Sharia law.

Some people here in Europe think integrating Turkey with Europe through allowing Turkey to join the EU could have a positive effect on the spread of democratic values in the Muslim world. I guess this can be argued for, but I can also see the dangers of letting Turkey join the EU.

Turkish immigrants to the EU often behave very well. In Germany, where most Muslims are of Turkish origin, crime rates among immigrants seem to be much lower than in France, where most Muslims stem from Norther Africa or in the UK which houses a lot of Pakistan Muslims.

One important question, in this context, is this; what are the odds of Muslims worldwide wishing to become as Westernized as the anti Islamist people of Turkish origin?

18 posted on 04/30/2007 6:05:47 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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