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Va. governor closes loophole that armed Tech gunman
dailypress ^ | 04-30-2007 | BOB LEWIS

Posted on 04/30/2007 10:08:12 AM PDT by bedolido

RICHMOND, Va. -- Virginia's governor said Monday he has closed the loophole that allowed a mentally disturbed Virginia Tech student to acquire the guns he used to kill 32 classmates and faculty on April 16 in Blacksburg.

Gov. Timothy M. Kaine said he issued an executive order requiring immediately that the names of persons found dangerous and ordered to undergo involuntary mental health treatment be entered in a database barring the sale of firearms.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypress.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; closes; governor; gunman; loophole; vatech
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1 posted on 04/30/2007 10:08:16 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido

Dusts off hands, walks away smiling that he’s fixed it...Although I agree with what he did, we need to rethink the entire process for dealing with the mentally ill.


2 posted on 04/30/2007 10:10:52 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: bedolido

He’s a regular Johnny-on-the-Spot, isn’t he?


3 posted on 04/30/2007 10:12:50 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: bedolido

Said it before, say it again.

A few years back here in PA, a guy who was released from a mental hospital went on a shooting rampage.

How did he get the weapon? Easy, mail order from Cabellas.

Those black powder Colt replica revolvers do the job quit nicely, thank you.


4 posted on 04/30/2007 10:17:43 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: randog

Well, we’ve taken guns away from the mentally ill. No reason we can’t start taking them away from normal citizens now too. We’re all safe donchaknow.


5 posted on 04/30/2007 10:17:47 AM PDT by TheZMan (That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends...)
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To: TheZMan
No reason we can’t start taking them away from normal citizens now too.

Hey, slow down there! We can't take guns away from normal citizens--we've got to certify them crazy first!!

Seriously, how long before the divorce lawyers discover this?

6 posted on 04/30/2007 10:20:00 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Al Gator
Those black powder Colt replica revolvers do the job quit nicely

Reminds me of a conversation I had with a street thug decades ago. At the time there was a fad of gangstas arming themselves with black powder revolvers since they could be bought by anyone. He said his crew got in a shootout with another crew across an intersection with a street light. They had to quit the gun battle when it got so smoky neither crew could see each other any more.

7 posted on 04/30/2007 10:24:52 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: bedolido

So much for the privacy of medical records. The ACLU will get right on the case—not.


8 posted on 04/30/2007 10:26:54 AM PDT by kabar
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To: randog
A registry of the mentally ill will be run by liberals.

Look at this:

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It had to happen. A taxpayer-funded study by the National Institute of Mental Health and the National Science Foundation (NIMH-NSF) announced last August [2003] that adherents to conventional moral principles and limited government are mentally disturbed.

NIMH-NSF scholars from the Universities of Maryland, California at Berkeley, and Stanford attribute notions about morality and individualism to “dogmatism” and “uncertainty avoidance.” Social conservatives, in particular, were said to suffer from “mental rigidity,” a condition that, researchers assert, is probably hard-wired, condemning traditionalists to a lifelong, cognitive hell, with all the associated indicators for mental illness: “decreased cognitive function, lowered self-esteem, fear, anger, pessimism, disgust, and contempt.”

http://www.beverlye.com/200401131957.html

9 posted on 04/30/2007 10:28:18 AM PDT by donna (Men are the new women.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

I can see where that would be a problem. Also, gangsta aren’t known to be real savvy with the finer points of weapons. Cleaning after that 5th shot isn’t something that’s “kewl”.


10 posted on 04/30/2007 10:28:28 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: bedolido; Corin Stormhands

Ah, it’s The Eyebrow, come to save us all.

}:-)4


11 posted on 04/30/2007 10:30:41 AM PDT by Moose4 ("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
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To: randog

If you need a gun, then that means you are paranoid, which therefore means you must be crazy.

See, how simple that is!


12 posted on 04/30/2007 10:32:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: 3AngelaD
Although I agree with what he did,

Whaaaat?!

How many mental wierdos DID NOT kill anyone, let alone 32 people? So why make a new law? Bad idea and I disagree with it.

If you really think that goverment can keep weapons out of criminal hands then think about prisons.

13 posted on 04/30/2007 10:37:02 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Pelosi Democrats agree with Al Queda more often than they agree with President Bush.)
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To: Al Gator

So what are you saying, Al, ban private ownership of cap and ball revolvers?

By the way, is that jerk who keeps trygin to extend Federal Firearms regulations to flintlocks from your district?

Perhaps he needs to be committed. You could kill more people with a car than with a cap and ball revolver.


14 posted on 04/30/2007 10:43:16 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: bedolido

How about the loophole that allows weapons for those here on a “student” visa?

Is it just me, or does this seem a bit off as well? Talk about your immigration and security problems...


15 posted on 04/30/2007 10:44:04 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Eagle Eye

Sorry, no right is infinite. You don’t have a right to own an atomic bomb. I don’t have a problem with restricting gun sales to the disastrously mentally ill. And no I don’t think the government can keep weapons out of all the wrong hands, but in this situation, government has to at least try. Adding these people to the database is not going to bring the Republic to its knees.


16 posted on 04/30/2007 10:44:14 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: ZULU

Oh dear me, I’m for unrestricted 2nd Amendment rights.

There are idiots in this state though, who really do try to run at black powder.

One was the goof ball Joe Ho AKA Joey Hoeffel. After this incident, he wanted to classify black powder in the same category as modern weapons, subject to the same restrictions.

Fortunately, he is no longer in office.


17 posted on 04/30/2007 10:50:11 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Wiseghy

Who was on a student visa? As far as I know, those on student visas are not allowed to purchase fire arms.


18 posted on 04/30/2007 10:52:12 AM PDT by Ciganina
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To: Al Gator

Hoeffel is the guy.

In New Joisey, they had Governor Tom Kean Senior who, back in the 1970’s decided to protect the citizens - excuse me - subjects - of the People’s Republic of New Jersey by including flintlock pistols in the same category as .44 magnums.


19 posted on 04/30/2007 10:52:49 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Wiseghy

No, they can’t. But legal permanent residents, such as Cho, can own firearms.


20 posted on 04/30/2007 10:54:30 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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