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To: tgambill
****** “wrong.......You would know Jesus Christ with or without Religion.”

How?

How would you know of Jesus Christ if not from the Bible or from a preacher of some sort?

****** “....Religion was made by man as a term and is used to control people....”

James says that Religion can be good... “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” - James 1:27

****** “Don’t forget, the POPE just declared that Babies are no longer in Limbo...:”

It’s not my job to defend the Pope - but he was addressing a commonly held belief not the dogma of the RCC. (Catholics may correct me on this.)

****** “The Holy Spirit could care less about Religion.”

The Holy Spirit inspired James to write his epistle we referenced above.

****** “you don’t need religion to have communion with God.”

Religion:

1A. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1B. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Based on the above, which kind of religion are you referring to?

34 posted on 04/30/2007 3:51:01 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

How?

****The Holy Spirit is supernatural. The Holy Spirit talks to us through our thoughts and he writes on our hearts the true word of God when we let him in. How do you think the authors of the Bible wrote the Bible in the first place. The old testament to the New testament, written by man, but his writings were inspired by a supernatural force called the Holy Spirit. Jesus said we would not be left alone, he would send the comforter. God would not has us to depend the possession of a Bible. He surpasses all that. You can take the Bible away, you can burn it, whatever, but the word of God is written in our hearts. One cannot restrict nor shut out the creator. One cannot box God up and fit him into what we would like him to be, just so we are comfortable in our own little made up world.

“How would you know of Jesus Christ if not from the Bible or from a preacher of some sort?”

****Just answered that.....Don’t need a preacher, Pope or Rabbi, or Imam. You can’t limit God to this world. Preachers, Popes, etc.....are nice to have, however, 30% +/- of Catholic priest or whoever are pedofiles...Baptist preachers sometimes “messes” around with the Deacons wife....or underage children as well.....Don’t need a preacher...I can read the Bible and so can everyone else. Don’t have a Bible, I can pray, and God will answer with words to our hearts. Confess only to him your sins, no preacher or Priest or even POPE. Does no good and will go for nothing. None of these died on the cross. They will be judged just as the common criminal as all of us will be judged.

****** “....Religion was made by man as a term and is used to control people....”

“James says that Religion can be good... “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” - James 1:27”

*****It can be good if it is in compliance with the Bible. Mormons have religion...but, I doubt very seriously if any of them will become Gods and inherit a planet of their very own. this is in accordance with the Morman Religion. You can have this in your religion, and written in your own Bible...however, this doesn’t mean it will be true.

****** “Don’t forget, the POPE just declared that Babies are no longer in Limbo...:”

It’s not my job to defend the Pope - but he was addressing a commonly held belief not the dogma of the RCC. (Catholics may correct me on this.)

*****Sure, but, the Bible would address this in Daniel and other verses. It does not make it so because a man proclaims it to be true. What verses or part of Gods word gave him the authority to make this “determination”? If there is an answer to this question. Then, what was the hold up, the Bible was there all along.

****** “The Holy Spirit could care less about Religion.”

“The Holy Spirit inspired James to write his epistle we referenced above.”

*****Sure did, but didn’t say anything about making a religion. He was just inspired to write and testify what the Holy Spirit wrote on his heart.

****** “you don’t need religion to have communion with God.”

Religion:

1A. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1B. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Based on the above, which kind of religion are you referring to?

*******No Religion as I said before. Religion was a term invented and defined by man. Religion is an institution designed to control and fit mans desires to commune with whatever higher reasoning power they want. So, if this means Scientology....then, this is their religion. Shall we discuss what Christ says about false Gods? The Iron Mountain report (the hoax of the Iron Mountain Report is the claim that it was a hoax), stated that one substitute of War to control people was specifically; among others, was “New Religions and other Mythologies”.


38 posted on 04/30/2007 4:13:06 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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