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Democrat Dreams and GOP Weakness
The American Thinker ^ | April 29, 2007 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 05/01/2007 9:57:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

These are dark days for the GOP. Chris Cillizza, the Washington Post's political prognosticator, is starting to talk seriously of the Democrat's being in position to obtain a filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats in the Senate after the 2010 election, and possibly after the 2008 elections.

Cillizza admits that the 2008 scenario is a bit far fetched: the Democrats would have to defeat GOP incumbents in Maine (Susan Collins), Oregon (Gordon Smith), New Hampshire (John Sununu) and Minnesota (Norm Coleman), win the open seat in Colorado, and then win four other seats, either additional open seats in states where GOP senators might be retiring: New Mexico (Pete Domenici), Virginia (John Warner). Mississippi (Thad Cochran), Nebraska (Chuck Hagel), and Oklahoma (Jim Inhofe) or spring upsets against other incumbents seen as less vulnerable at the moment: North Carolina (Liddy Dole) or Kentucky (Mitch McConnell). And there is one other thing Cillizza acknowledges the Democrats would have to do for this long-shot to come in, namely hold their own vulnerable seats in 2008: South Dakota (the ailing Tim Johnson), Louisiana (Mary Landrieu), and perhaps Montana (Max Baucus).

It is worth noting that at this point in the 2006 election cycle, the Republicans, much like the Democrats today, were coming off of a very successful election year, in which President Bush was re-elected with a 3 million popular vote margin. They picked up 4 Senate seats to get to 55 and a few House seats to get to 232. The 2006 races, particularly in the Senate, looked target rich for the GOP, with 18 of the 33 contested seats held by Democrats, 4 of the 5 open seats (including the appointed seat in New Jersey of Bob Menendez, Maryland, Minnesota, Vermont, and Tennessee) held by Democrats, and a few other Democrats running for re-election for the first time after narrow wins in 2000 (Debbie Stabenow in Michigan and Maria Cantwell in Michigan). It appeared possible the GOP could add a seat or two to its majority in the 2006 midterms.

The Senate results in 2006 were the equivalent of the Democrats drawing an inside straight flush. Had George Allen never used the term "Macaca," he would have held his seat with a comfortable margin, rather than lose it by 11,000 votes out of well over 2 million cast in Virginia. If the GOP had invested more in Conrad Burns in Montana (an inexpensive state for media campaigns), they could probably have protected that seat, which was lost by only 3,000 votes (less than a 1% margin). Missouri was another narrow defeat for the GOP, lost in large part because the GOP failed to respond effectively to Michael J. Fox's grotesquely misleading attack ad on the issue of stem cell research. These ads also hurt George Allen in Virginia.

Had the GOP held 1, 2 or 3 of the 6 Senate seats that were lost in the 2006 elections, we would have a totally different political dynamic in Congress at the moment. No bill setting a deadline for leaving Iraq would arrive on the President's desk to be vetoed. We would not have a string of Senate investigations of White House officials.

Obviously the political environment turned very dark very quickly for the GOP between 2004 and 2006, and the primary ingredients in that shift were the Iraq war, and to a much lesser extent, corruption and personal scandals. The Iraq war could damage the GOP again in 2008, though there is a better than 50/50 shot at the moment that the Republican Presidential candidate will be someone who is not closely associated with the war. Much of the animus against the party at the moment is directed at President Bush, who will not be on the ballot.

I think it is highly speculative to posit, as Cillizza does, that the Democrats are well positioned for a 4 seat pickup in 2008 at a minimum. Gordon Smith and Susan Collins are both perceived as moderates and are popular in their states, though both states lean Democratic. Norm Coleman will have a challenging race, but if his opponent is Al Franken that will only prove that you need not go to the Ringling Brothers Academy to become a clown. The Colorado open seat leans towards the Democrats. In New Hampshire, the Sununu name is a respected one, and the tidal wave against the GOP in the state in 2006 is not necessarily going to be repeated in 2008. The Democrats can field competitive candidates in New Hampshire (the current and former Governors would be the strongest), but the seat is hardly lost at this point.

In terms of playing defense, one would have to say that both Louisiana and South Dakota will be tough holds for the Democrats in 2008. Mary Landrieu has won two very close races, and the demographic shift in the state since Hurricane Katrina will not help her in 2008. Tim Johnson's health appears to be slightly improving, but it is unclear if he will run again in 2008, and he too has won two very close races in a state where GOP presidential candidates routinely get close to 60% of the vote. . The Democrats could win most or all of the close races in 2008, as they did in 2006, and still only net gain a few seats (1 or 2). 2010 is a long time away to speculate on those races. If the GOP nominates a Presidential candidate with broad national appeal next year (as opposed to one with very strong regional appeal) that will likely help embattled GOP Senate and House candidates.

And if I am wrong, and Cillizza is right, the GOP can look to 2012, when the Democrats will have to defend 24 of the 33 Senate seats in that cycle. Talk about target rich environments.

Richard Baehr is chief political correspondent of American Thinker.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: defeatocrats; democrats; dhimmicrats; gop; republicans
Is he right?
1 posted on 05/01/2007 9:57:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As immigration continues from south of the border, I believe that the Socialist Party, Communist Party USA, Socialist Workers Party, Workers World Party, and Green Party will garner more power. Todays May Day riots/rallies were sponsored by such groups.

Will it be enough to seat more than one Socialist in Congress? Don’t know.

The DNC will have to make even more clearly Socialist appeals for votes which will turn off Yellow Dog Democrats in the base (but by 2010 those who lived through the years of Joseph Stalin will be a small minority of voter).

The Democrats won’t be the only viable party. It still is not a good future for America.


2 posted on 05/01/2007 10:13:04 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His calculation of a veto proof majority means diddly if they win the presidency, they won’t have to worry about vetoes.


3 posted on 05/01/2007 10:16:35 PM PDT by Williams
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One thing is for sure: these things rarely go as planned, especially when you are talking about almost 4 or 6 years out.


4 posted on 05/01/2007 10:16:53 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Happy Easter!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smith may well lose in OR. I doubt Collins will though. If Coleman faces Franken, he probably has a good shot at holding his seat; less so, if he faces a more “mainstream” liberal Dem.


5 posted on 05/01/2007 10:20:24 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Happy Easter!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone is always predicting the demise of one party or the other. The latest prediction usually has the shelf life of a loaf of bread. Meanwhile, the pendulum continues to swing...


6 posted on 05/01/2007 10:40:46 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, he is right. One of these days, I think it will be right after the conventions, the American people are going to take a hard look at the Rat Party and it ain`t going to be pretty. They will discover that the Rats stand for nothing, can`t wait to raise taxes, cut the military and worship big government more then life it`s self. They are for killing babies, against closing the border and by and large green wackos. The Republicans can beat them with the right guy at the top, good candidates down the line, a “contract with America” message and an end, and this is the hard part, to this constant Rino hunt. If we want to win, if the mere thought of any of the Rat candidates becoming President is to horrific to contemplate, we go back to Reagan`s big tent. We must support our nominee!
If we are smart enough and strong enough, 2008 can save our beloved country.
7 posted on 05/01/2007 11:52:00 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I also think that the MSM is a ripe target. They have gone why to far helping the Rats fight Bush, the War, and adding the Greens. They are weak finacically and don`t own the news any more. The Rats can`t win without them and again, right around convention time, they will be ripe targets
8 posted on 05/02/2007 12:07:49 AM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the last election has presaged the end of the RINOs. They will probably be replaced by Democrats. Why have a fake liberal when you can have a real one? The liberal-dominated GOP in many northeastern states is a shadow of its former self. Its a me-too Democratic Party.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 05/02/2007 2:07:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I don’t know if he is right, but if amnesty passes, there will be many more Democrat voters by 2012, if not sooner. The percentage of the population that is identified as Republican will steadily drop due to the importation of big government dependent voters IMO.


10 posted on 05/02/2007 2:15:58 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

Notice how we pick up these new illegal immigrants who come from liberal utopia lands and never seem to vote for the right people and run their countries into the ground and are now coming here trying to turn us into the same mess! There’s no doubt they are Demonrat voters and if they ever get their way, our country is going likewise downward. The future is not looking good.


11 posted on 05/02/2007 2:58:25 AM PDT by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. IN 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The big thinkers on the right can continue attacking Republicans who aren’t perfect ideologues, and always blame others.


12 posted on 05/02/2007 4:05:06 AM PDT by tkathy (Those who appease always get more killed than those who stand up to barbarism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can only tell when they count the ballots, this of course includes the dead people votes nad the illegal’s votes.


13 posted on 05/02/2007 4:07:41 AM PDT by stockpirate (Al Qaeda is in the United States, they are in the House and Senate, Democrats all!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think that the GOP could lose big in both elections if they continue to follow the “New Tone” which means do not fight the Democrats because the liberal press will not like you.

I guess Clinton’s FBI files are working wonders these days.

We are a leaderless party, Bush is a single agenda leader, WOT.

The borders are an open door for Mexico, his appointees are fair game for Democrats, when we could have done things differently we didn’t.


14 posted on 05/02/2007 4:12:34 AM PDT by stockpirate (Al Qaeda is in the United States, they are in the House and Senate, Democrats all!)
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To: Truth29

Another demographic change not mentioned is the aging of the baby boomers. This block of the population will become more dependent on entitlement programs as time goes by which may well lead to greater identification with the Democratic party. Not that Rino’s are slackers in the government dole arena either. But as posted earlier, why vote for liberal lite of the GOP when you can vote for the real thing in Rats.


15 posted on 05/02/2007 4:45:46 AM PDT by buckalfa
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To: Prince Caspian
Someone is always predicting the demise of one party or the other.

Jim Noble is predicting the demise of both of 'em.

16 posted on 05/02/2007 4:48:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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