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Fox News May Drop Seven From GOP Debate (?????)
Newsmax ^ | 5/2/07 | staff

Posted on 05/02/2007 8:14:10 AM PDT by pissant

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas wants to bring American troops back from Iraq, having opposed the war from the outset. He's also a Republican candidate for president - possibly the most contrarian in the field of 10 - and he may be excluded from a forthcoming GOP candidate debate.

The same could apply to Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, the ranking Republican and past chairman of the House Armed Services Committee during most of the war on terror.

Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, one of the strongest voices in the House on border security; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; former national GOP chairman and Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore; and former cabinet secretary and Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson may also be left out.

Even Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, a leading voice for social conservatives, could be on the fence.

All of these candidates hover around one percent in most national polls. That's the cutoff point for would-be participants in a May 15 debate in Columbia, S.C., according to the Fox News Channel, which is broadcasting the debate and co-sponsoring it with the South Carolina Republican Party.

The network and the state party agreed on the one percent threshold, as well as on the requirements that candidates must have filed papers in South Carolina and paid the proper fees to be a candidate, state GOP spokesman Rob Godfrey told Cybercast News Service.

It will be the second debate between Republican candidates, as MSNBC will broadcast a debate Thursday night that will include the entire, 10-strong current GOP field. But Fox News is the highest-rated cable news network and could reach more Republican voters.

Paul, who achieved two percent in a Gallup Poll last month but only one percent in a Zogby poll, is confident that he will be in the South Carolina debate, Paul campaign chairman Kent Snyder said.

Nonetheless, Snyder told Cybercast News Service he does not think there should be restrictions on a debate this early in the campaign.

Live debates, he said, will enable many candidates to obtain the name recognition which up to now is enjoyed by the leaders - Arizona Sen. John McCain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

"At this point all of the candidates should be invited," Snyder said. "It's very early in the process."

A candidate such as Paul would bring a different perspective to the debate, he added.

"Dr. Paul is the only real Republican, the only true conservative in the field of 10," Snyder said of the 1988 Libertarian Party nominee for president. "He contrasts clearly with the candidates the disgruntled droves see."

Hunter also expects to be in the debate but, like Paul, disagrees with the restrictions.

"If someone is a registered candidate, he should be allowed to be in the debate," Hunter campaign spokesman Roy Tyler told Cybercast News Service. "I can understand narrowing as the time draws closer to the primary. But campaigns are in the really early stages now. Any campaign should be allowed to express their views."

Other campaigns for the less well-known GOP candidates could not be reached for comment.

South Carolina is the site of one of the country's earliest primaries and will also host the Republican National Committee's meeting of state chairmen during the week of the debate, giving participating candidates the chance to network with state party leaders from across the nation.

Some conservatives are angry about the one percent criterion at such an important time.

"Although Fox News is supposed to be the conservative channel, its decision to narrow the field means that, depending on the polls they use, conservatives such as Brownback, Gilmore, Huckabee, Hunter, Paul and Tancredo could all be excluded from the debate," Accuracy in Media Editor Cliff Kincaid wrote in a column.

"Such a process is blatantly unfair, this early in the campaign to those who have not benefited from favorable media attention and big business support," he said.

"It's outrageous to narrow the field that much," Kincaid told Cybercast News Service Tuesday.

In past presidential cycles, candidates who ranked low in the year before the election often surged to be competitive when the primaries rolled around.


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Though I doubt this will come to pass because of pressure not to pull this bonheaded move, IF it does, I will never tune in Fox again.
1 posted on 05/02/2007 8:14:14 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
While I will continue to watch fox news, an action like this will certainly effect my opinion of their impartiality.
2 posted on 05/02/2007 8:18:36 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: pissant

A PRIMARY should include all, despite their rankings. Good grief.


3 posted on 05/02/2007 8:21:19 AM PDT by tioga
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To: pissant
I disagree with the author as well. I think a candidate should poll at least 10%, even though he doesn’t have a prayer to win the nomination.

It’s a waste of time to listen to the far fringe candidates.

4 posted on 05/02/2007 8:21:59 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Scotus - Buggering the Constitution since 1937.)
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To: pissant

“Dr. Paul is the only real Republican,...”

Ron Paul is a Republican when there is a GOP fundraiser. When there isn’t one, he plays at being a Libertarian.

I don’t have a problem with a large number of participants in the first couple of debates. Thats good for the voters, good for the GOP in general.

But I take strong exception to the above comment about this guy being the ‘only real Republican’.

From what I’ve seen, he’s a Republican when its convienent, or when there is a fundraiser. The rest of the time, he’s no better than McCain, who also likes to play this kind of game, playing to whatever audience he happens to be in front of.

Just my opinion.


5 posted on 05/02/2007 8:22:16 AM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: pissant

A really stupid move to silence big voices.


6 posted on 05/02/2007 8:22:40 AM PDT by tkathy (Those who appease always get more killed than those who stand up to barbarism)
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To: pissant

What would be the point of having the debate at all?


7 posted on 05/02/2007 8:27:29 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: pissant

The problem is most any “1 percent candidate” can dominate any conversation or debate without addint anything to it.

Thinking of Keyes, Sharpton, Buchanan, Nader, etc.


8 posted on 05/02/2007 8:27:31 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside (Rudy Giuliani is just another "Empty Dress Republican")
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That is a minor problem compared to the fact that it is almost a year from the primary, and limiting the debates at this time to those with name recognition. If you think only Rudy, Romeny or McCain can win, then the GOP might as well call it a day.


9 posted on 05/02/2007 8:30:00 AM PDT by pissant
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Use the allie-allie-in-free nature of the first Democrat debate as a bad example. When you include every candidate, no matter how hopeless, you get a stampede, not a debate. Having litigated on the subject of inclusion in debates to the US Supreme Court, I advise -- reluctantly -- that excluding the less than 1% candidates is a legitimate and valuable decision.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "To Raise the Edifice (Geo. Washington on the Constitution)"

10 posted on 05/02/2007 8:31:44 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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Note to FNC: Either all The Gnats are none. It’s not nice to discriminate.


11 posted on 05/02/2007 8:31:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: pissant

I really do hate Fox.

From what I have gathered Fox News supports 2 guys. Rudy and Romney. They really hate McCain.

They think it is their duty to limit our choices. B**tards.


12 posted on 05/02/2007 8:31:52 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: mewzilla

Either all The Gnats OR none is what I meant to type....


13 posted on 05/02/2007 8:32:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: pissant

Fantastic. Now Guliaini & Romney can debate amongst themselves about which of them is most liberal.


14 posted on 05/02/2007 8:33:19 AM PDT by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: Congressman Billybob

In October, perhaps. In May, no freakin way. Certainly NO conservative I know is willing to settle for the flip floppin, backstabbing libs known as the “big three” at this point.


15 posted on 05/02/2007 8:34:16 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

I find these debates coming way too early. 17 months out from the election is an eternity.


16 posted on 05/02/2007 8:35:04 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: JRochelle

If not for Brit Hume (and Laurie Dhue), I’d never tune in.


17 posted on 05/02/2007 8:35:33 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

All candidates should be heard in the debate.


18 posted on 05/02/2007 8:35:34 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: pissant
What criteria would you use to limit the participants?

Should the Republican mayor/sheriff/dogcatcher of Bullwinkle, South Dakota be able to participate in the debate if he decides to run for the nomination?

19 posted on 05/02/2007 8:36:13 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside (Rudy Giuliani is just another "Empty Dress Republican")
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To: Reagan Man

Its only 9 months until the primaries get rolling.


20 posted on 05/02/2007 8:36:17 AM PDT by pissant
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