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Reading the Constitution Right (Clarence Thomas makes mark on SCOTUS)
City Journal ^ | May 2, 2007 | Stephen B. Presser

Posted on 05/02/2007 8:39:56 AM PDT by RWR8189

In 1991, George H. W. Bush nominated 43-year-old court of appeals judge Clarence Thomas, who had been on the bench only 19 months, for a seat on the Supreme Court. The president declared that “race played no part in his selection,” but the statement was hard to believe. After all, Thomas would replace Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American on the Court. Almost everyone assumed that Bush had caved to political pressure to reserve a black seat on the Court, and filled it with one of the few black conservatives on the bench.

Liberals immediately launched withering attacks on Thomas’s fitness for the highest court. The dean of the University of Chicago’s law school, eminent civil libertarian Geoffrey Stone, echoed the legal academy’s general opinion when he said: “I think, in all candor, [Thomas] fairly could be labeled ‘strange.’ Not in terms of right or wrong, but in being further outside the mainstream of constitutional interpretation than Bork”—Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork, that is, whose nomination Senate Democrats had shot down in 1987. Black leaders, despising Thomas’s political views, were particularly harsh, calling the nominee a “chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom,” a “virulent Oreo phenomenon,” and an “assassin,” among other vicious insults. But even conservatives were dubious.

Then, as everyone knows, Thomas’s former employee, Anita Hill, brought eleventh-hour accusations of sexual harassment against him, testifying before a special Senate hearing in what the nominee dubbed a “high-tech lynching.” The Hill fiasco nearly derailed Thomas’s seat on the Court, with many Americans questioning his honesty. The Senate eventually confirmed him in a 52–48 vote—the smallest margin for any Supreme Court justice in a century.

What’s interesting, and perhaps surprising, is that, 16 Court terms later, Thomas has quietly proved himself to be a serious constitutional thinker, who displays—for those sympathetic with his conservative jurisprudence, anyway—both great independence and considerable wisdom. Thomas forcefully rejects the notion, long favored by liberals, that the Constitution is a “living document” and that Supreme Court justices should creatively adjust the meaning of its terms to afford more protection to minorities, to invent such unenumerated rights as the “right to privacy,” and in general to promote “progressive” ends that the Left can’t seem to win at the ballot box. Instead, he has become the Court’s most persuasive exponent of “originalism”—the view that justices should interpret the Constitution as meaning what it did to those who read the document when it was framed. Since originalism is the jurisprudence most compatible with our republican form of government and the intentions of the Founding Fathers, it’s looking as though the first President Bush got it right after all when he declared, upon nominating Thomas, that he was “the best man for the job.”

Such a favorable view of Thomas is relatively new. With the exception of a few evenhanded works such as Scott Gerber’s 1998 First Principles, which praised Thomas as a dedicated champion of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, most assessments of Thomas tended to be much more critical than favorable. Then two books came along that convincingly argued both that Anita Hill had fabricated her charges and that Thomas was anything but in over his head as a justice: attorney and author Andrew Peyton Thomas’s Clarence Thomas: A Biography, in 2001; and Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Ken Foskett’s Judging Thomas: The Life and Times of Clarence Thomas, in 2004.

The books also told the compelling story of Thomas’s rise from poverty. His taciturn grandfather, Myers Anderson, had abandoned Thomas’s mother when she was a small child, and initially, he wanted nothing to do with young Clarence or his brother. But when Thomas’s mother married a man who didn’t want the boys around, Thomas’s step-grandmother persuaded Anderson to take the boys in, and he raised them, reluctantly, in the small town of Pin Point, Georgia. Anderson did, in his aloof way, come to cherish his grandsons, though he made them work backbreaking hours in his fuel oil and cinderblock business and on his farm. By the time Thomas entered high school, a segregated Catholic academy in Savannah, he and his brother had learned self-reliance, as well as how to build houses, plant crops, fix machines, and string fences. From this hardscrabble background—where he grew up speaking “Gullah,” or “Geechee,” a southern African-American Creole blend of African languages and Elizabethan English—Thomas made his way to a Missouri Catholic seminary, Holy Cross College, and Yale Law School, shedding Gullah along the way.

Thomas credits his grandfather and the Savannah nuns with everything that he has since achieved, and it does seem that he acquired from them the rock-ribbed fortitude, the energy, and the thick skin that have enabled him to ignore his critics and to revel in his work on the Court. That’s certainly a more plausible psychological inference than one finds in Kevin Merida and Michael Fletcher’s recent Supreme Discomfort, which regards Thomas’s conservative jurisprudence as “payback” for the liberals who tried to “Bork” him.

When Thomas took his seat on the Court, Justice Byron White gave him some advice about how to respond to the views of his new colleagues: “Don’t change your mind unless you’re truly persuaded.”

Thomas paid attention, showing his fierce independent streak in one of his first cases, Hudson v. McMillan (1992). The suit involved a black Louisiana prisoner named Keith Hudson. Guards had beaten him as a supervisor looked on, telling them not “to have too much fun,” leaving the inmate with “a cracked lip, a broken dental plate, loosened teeth, and cuts and bruises,” according to Hudson’s testimony. Hudson brought a civil rights claim, arguing that he had suffered “cruel and unusual punishment,” which the Eighth Amendment prohibits. In conference, eight of the Court’s nine justices agreed.

Thomas dissented, urging that Hudson’s injuries were actually “minor” and that the Constitution’s “cruel and unusual” language, correctly understood as the framers did, ought to be limited, at a minimum, to significant injury. “In my view,” he explained, “a use of force that causes only insignificant harm to a prisoner may be immoral, it may be tortious, it may be criminal, and it may even be remediable under other provisions of the Federal Constitution, but it is not ‘cruel and unusual punishment.’ ” Further, Thomas pointed out, the Eighth Amendment originally referred to the sentence meted out at trial, not to the incarceration conditions that followed. Any decision to abandon these historical understandings should be up to the people, acting through legislation or constitutional amendment, not to the unelected members of the Court.

Thomas’s dissent audaciously countered the Court’s dominant criminal jurisprudence over the last four decades, which has freely expanded the meaning and scope of “cruel and unusual”—for example, ruling that it prohibits imposing the death penalty on juveniles or the mentally impaired. Only Antonin Scalia agreed with him, and Hudson won the case by a 7–2 vote. The episode earned Thomas a memorable sobriquet from the New York Times: “the youngest, cruelest justice.”

Despite Thomas’s willingness to go against the grain, critics have often charged that he is subservient to the man the Times calls his “mentor”: fellow originalist Scalia. And it’s true that Thomas concurs more often with Scalia than with any other justice. In one of his lighter moments, he mused that Scalia must have implanted a chip in his brain to control his jurisprudence. But Thomas is no Scalia clone; in fact, he’s even more committed to originalism than is the elder justice. Scalia, for instance, has said that he might temper his originalism to accommodate long-standing Court precedent. Thomas believes that, when given the chance, the Court should right its past errors—even if it means overturning “settled” law.

Fittingly, Thomas has emerged as a muscular proponent of states’ rights, again countering decades’ worth of constitutional law, which has cut back on state power and signed off on a massive expansion of the federal government. Thomas makes clear that, for him, the “ultimate source of the Constitution’s authority is the consent of the people of each individual State, not the consent of the undifferentiated people of the Nation as a whole.” This “compact” theory of the Constitution has a tricky history. Jefferson and Madison—the father of the Constitution himself—adopted it in the crisis of the late 1790s; so did the Southern states when they withdrew from the Union. It’s a controversial idea, to say the least, and it flies in the face not only of much modern legal theory but also of the views of some nineteenth-century jurists, including Supreme Court justice Joseph Story, in his celebrated and influential 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution.

Equally boldly, and again in accordance with his views of the primacy of state power, Thomas argues that modern jurisprudence “fundamentally misunderstands”—“ignores” might be a better way of putting it—the notion of “reserved powers” from the Tenth Amendment, which holds that the “powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Taking the Tenth Amendment seriously would mean imposing a more modest role on the central government.

Thomas’s states-rights leanings show up most clearly in his dissent in U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton (1995), a case in which the Court ruled unconstitutional Arkansas’s imposition of term limits on its congressional representatives. The Constitution, reasoned the Court, already listed certain qualifications for congressional office—a representative must be at least 25 years old, for example, and a senator 30—and no state could add to those restrictions. The Court had read Story’s treatise, which not only rejected the compact theory but also asserted that the states’ sole “reserved powers” were those that they enjoyed before the framing of the Constitution. Because none of the states at the time had placed term limits on their national representatives, it followed that they didn’t have the power to do it now.

Thomas didn’t buy it, opining that the majority made a mistake in relying on Story’s constrained interpretation of “reserved powers.” Story “was not a member of the Founding generation, and his Commentaries on the Constitution were written a half-century after the framing,” Thomas noted. “Rather than representing the original understanding of the Constitution, they represent only his own understanding.” Story’s assertion “conflicts with both the plain language of the Tenth Amendment and the underlying theory of the Constitution.” Surveying the historical period shortly after the Constitution’s ratification, Thomas also showed that at least some states had imposed restrictions on qualifications for office beyond those that the Constitution specified—implying that the document, as the founding era interpreted it, permitted them. Therefore, Thomas concluded, since there was no explicit constitutional denial of the power of setting congressional term limits, the people of the states should retain it.

As a simple matter of text and original understanding, Thomas may well have been right, and the venerated Story wrong.

Thomas has also taken on the modern Court’s misinterpretation of the First Amendment’s religion clause, which has barred states and localities from promoting religion in the public square. The clause provides that “Congress . . . shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Since its decision in Everson v. Board of Education of Ewing Township (1947), the Court has interpreted that to mean a nearly impenetrable “wall of separation” should stand between church and state—and has applied the principle not only to the federal government but also to state and local governments. For example, the Warren Court barred state-sanctioned public school prayer or Bible reading. More recently, the Court has forbidden public schools to invite clergymen to give benedictions at graduations, or to allow student-led prayer at football games.

But recent work of legal historians, including my own, has shown that the religion clause’s real purpose was likely to protect the state establishments of religion that still existed in 1791 in Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Virginia, and probably also the religious restrictions for voting or for holding public office that 11 states had on the books at the time. Endorsing this view, Thomas—alone on the Court—wrote in his concurrence in Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow (2004) that “the text and history of the Establishment Clause strongly suggest that it is a federalism provision intended to prevent Congress from interfering with state establishments.” As he bluntly put it, “the Constitution left religion to the States.”

Justice Thomas’s views on abortion similarly reflect his belief that, according to the Constitution, it’s up to the states to decide the most important matters of domestic law. In his dissent in Stenberg v. Carhart (2000), joined by justices Rehnquist and Scalia, Thomas affirmed that Roe v. Wade, which in 1973 declared that the constitutional “right to privacy” included the right for a woman to choose to terminate her pregnancy, was “grievously wrong.” “Nothing in our Federal Constitution deprives the people of this country of the right to determine whether the consequences of abortion to the fetus and to society outweigh the burden of an unwanted pregnancy on the mother,” said Thomas. “Although a State may permit abortion, nothing in the Constitution dictates that a State must do so.” It seems that those liberals who feared that a Justice Thomas would vote to reverse Roe v. Wade, and return the issue of abortion to state voters, were correct.

Thomas’s most powerful opinions, however, concern race. In his view—which not all originalists share—the Fourteenth Amendment’s provision forbidding states from depriving any person of the “equal protection of the laws,” together with Fifth Amendment federal due-process protections, means that the Constitution is colorblind, pure and simple.

In Adarand Constructors, Inc. v. Pena (1995), the Supreme Court, narrowing the range of permissible race-conscious policies, found that a federal affirmative-action program that gave preferences to minorities in awarding contracts had to show a “compelling governmental interest”—and be “narrowly tailored” to address it—to pass constitutional muster. Thomas concurred, but made clear that he would have gone much further: “I believe that there is a ‘moral [and] constitutional equivalence’ . . . between laws designed to subjugate a race and those that distribute benefits on the basis of race in order to foster some current notion of equality.” No matter the law’s intentions, Thomas maintained, “under our Constitution, the government may not make distinctions on the basis of race.”

For Thomas, the core of racial preference programs was a paternalism “at war with the principle of inherent equality that underlies and infuses our Constitution.” To support his assertion, he cited the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.” As Scott Gerber observes, Thomas’s striking argument seeks to incorporate the notion of equality that inheres in the Declaration into the Constitution itself. The Adarand concurrence also argues that “so-called ‘benign’ discrimination teaches many that because of chronic and apparently immutable handicaps, minorities cannot compete” and that “inevitably, such programs engender attitudes of superiority or, alternatively, provoke resentment among those who believe that they have been wronged by the government’s use of race.” In short, said Thomas, “these programs stamp minorities with a badge of inferiority.”

Thomas would know that from experience. Consider Tim Russert’s 2004 interview of Harry Reid of Nevada, then the Senate minority leader. Reid feared that George W. Bush might name Thomas to replace William Rehnquist, who had just died, as chief justice. Reid granted that Thomas was “one smart guy” but said that he couldn’t support him for chief justice because “he has been an embarrassment to the Supreme Court. I think that his opinions are poorly written. I don’t—I just don’t think that he’s done a good job as a Supreme Court justice.”

Many people of good faith disagree with Thomas’s opinions. But they can’t plausibly accuse him of poor writing. In a 2001 speech at the American Enterprise Institute, Thomas said: “Whenever possible, the Court and judges generally should adopt clear, bright-line rules that, as I like to say to my law clerks, you can explain to the gas station attendant as easily as to a law professor.” Thomas has passed this demanding test of lucidity pretty successfully. “It’s a shame Russert didn’t press Reid to name some Thomas opinions he considers to be poorly written,” the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto commented. “In the absence of such examples, one can’t help but suspect that the new Senate Democratic leader is simply stereotyping Thomas as unintelligent because he is black.”

Thomas on Judging

“In my mind, impartiality is the very essence of judging and of being a judge. A judge does not look to his or her sex or racial, social, or religious background when deciding a case. It is exactly these factors that a judge must push to one side in order to render a fair, reasoned judgment on the meaning of the law. In order to be a judge, a person must attempt to exorcise himself or herself of the passions, thoughts, and emotions that fill any frail human being. He must become almost pure, in the way that fire purifies metal, before he can decide a case. Otherwise, he is not a judge, but a legislator. . . .

“My vision of the process of judging is unabashedly based on the proposition that there are right and wrong answers to legal questions. To be sure, judging is a difficult challenge because the Constitution itself is written in broad and sometimes ambiguous terms. Unfortunately, the Constitution does not come with Cliff’s Notes or a glossary. When it comes time to interpret the Constitution’s provisions, such as, for instance, the Speech or Press Clauses of the First Amendment, reasonable minds can certainly differ as to their exact meaning. But that does not mean that there is no right or correct answer; that there are no clear, eternal principles recognized and put into motion by our founding documents.”

—“Judging,” a 1996 speech to the University of Kansas School of Law

The most important Supreme Court decisions on counting by race in recent years have both involved the University of Michigan, and Thomas’s opinions in those cases are his clearest and most passionate statements on race and the law. In Gratz v. Bollinger, the Court deemed unconstitutional Michigan’s undergraduate admissions program, which blatantly used quotas, and Thomas concurred. “I would hold that a State’s use of racial discrimination in higher education admissions is categorically prohibited by the Equal Protection Clause.”

But in Grutter v. Bollinger, the Court approved Michigan’s law school’s admissions program, which claimed that race was just one factor among many considered in admissions—though the statistical evidence implied the existence of thinly veiled quotas. Sandra Day O’Connor, writing for the majority, held that the school’s desire to achieve “diversity” was a “compelling interest,” sufficient to support taking race into account, and that its admissions program was “narrowly tailored” enough to be constitutional.

Thomas’s dramatic dissent, joined in pertinent part by Scalia, began by quoting a speech that former slave Frederick Douglass made to abolitionists in 1865. “The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us,” Douglass had said. “I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! . . . And if the negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs!”

Lamenting the fact that the minority students benefiting from Michigan’s preferential admissions treatment tended to do poorly compared with their classmates, Thomas observed that “the Law School seeks only a facade—it is sufficient that the class looks right, even if it does not perform right.” Even more pointedly, he added, “All the Law School cares about is its own image among know-it-all elites, not solving real problems like the crisis of black male underperformance.”

Thomas’s dissent questioned the integrationist ideal itself as harmful to blacks in an educational context. He pointed to “the growing evidence that racial (and other sorts of) heterogeneity actually impairs learning among black students” and to social-science studies showing that “black students experience superior cognitive development at Historically Black Colleges (HBCs)” and that “black students attending HBCs report higher academic achievement than those attending predominantly white colleges.” One might question Thomas’s reliance on social-science data—such data are often misleading, incomplete, or mistaken. But the majority’s claim that diversity is valuable to education similarly relies on social science. And as a black man who experienced both segregated education in the South and integrated education in the North, Thomas can speak with unusual personal authority on the subject of race and education.

Thomas’s Grutter dissent was fearless in another way, too. In U.S. v. Virginia (1996), the Court had ruled that the all-male Virginia Military Institute violated the equal protection clause, and so had to start admitting women. Thomas hadn’t participated in that case because his son was then attending VMI. But it was more than a little curious, he pointed out now, that the Court was willing to defer, on the grounds of academic freedom, to the Michigan law school’s wish to count by race for the purposes of achieving diversity—but that it had been unwilling to defer to “a less fashionable Southern military institution” when it sought to remain single-sex in order to fulfill its goals of discipline and maintaining military traditions.

Thomas’s critics often describe him as the kind of judge who endangers our democracy and our rights, because his jurisprudence would permit state establishments of religion, and in general allow states to “legislate morality” in many other ways, including restricting abortion. In a splendid over-the-top performance, one leading scholar even calls Thomas’s sort of jurisprudence “fundamentalism” and argues that its adherence to an original understanding of a document is similar to the Koranic fundamentalism of an Osama bin Laden.

But it isn’t clear, to put it mildly, how showing fidelity to our republic’s founding document and ideals is undemocratic. In fact, Thomas’s philosophy, which he can trace to Alexander Hamilton, the first “originalist,” is far more democratic than the leftist alternative. Thomas takes seriously the document that Americans’ representatives ratified in 1789 and insists that only Americans’ representatives change it today—not nine unrepresentative lawyers, ephors sitting in a marble palace in Washington.

This isn’t to say that Thomas’s behavior as a justice doesn’t occasionally leave something to be desired. For instance, it would be helpful to lawyers presenting cases—and to law professors, and maybe even to gas station attendants seeking to understand his jurisprudence—if Thomas spoke up more during oral arguments, giving us better insight into his thought. Still, he must hope that the unvarnished views in his pungent dissents and concurrences (he has written few majority opinions on what has been, until recently, a liberal Court) will one day become the law of the land. If the relatively young Thomas endures for another generation on the Court, as he says he’d like to, that hope may well become reality.

Those now beginning to review Thomas’s work more seriously have found it to be much more influential on other justices’ thinking than his critics would have anticipated. In Jan Crawford Greenburg’s groundbreaking Supreme Conflict: The Inside Story of the Struggle for Control of the United States Supreme Court (2007), a Thomas comes into focus who is anything but the African-American cyber-puppet programmed by the wily Scalia. Greenburg shows, for example, not only that Thomas has been unafraid to stake out principled positions when he was the only voice in dissent, but also, in several notable cases, that his draft opinions persuaded Scalia and Rehnquist to change their votes and join him in dissents. With the appointments of John Roberts and Samuel Alito, there may be two more originalist justices for Thomas to influence.

Far from being an embarrassment to the Supreme Court, Thomas is contributing some of its most forceful and learned opinions. Even more remarkable, perhaps, is his willingness to go against the prevailing constitutional wisdom. Race probably did play some part in his selection. But by the time he retires, the general assessment will doubtless be that he was one of the most influential justices of his time.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clarencethomas; constructionist; court; scotus

1 posted on 05/02/2007 8:40:01 AM PDT by RWR8189
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To: sageb1

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2 posted on 05/02/2007 8:43:24 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: RWR8189
Taking the Tenth Amendment seriously would mean imposing a more modest role on the central government.

What a concept.

Appointing this man to SCOTUS was one of the two redeeming events of the Bush Sr Presidency.

L

3 posted on 05/02/2007 8:49:22 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: RWR8189
Justice Thomas’s views on abortion similarly reflect his belief that, according to the Constitution, it’s up to the states to decide the most important matters of domestic law. In his dissent in Stenberg v. Carhart (2000), joined by justices Rehnquist and Scalia, Thomas affirmed that Roe v. Wade, which in 1973 declared that the constitutional “right to privacy” included the right for a woman to choose to terminate her pregnancy, was “grievously wrong.” “Nothing in our Federal Constitution deprives the people of this country of the right to determine whether the consequences of abortion to the fetus and to society outweigh the burden of an unwanted pregnancy on the mother,” said Thomas. “Although a State may permit abortion, nothing in the Constitution dictates that a State must do so.” It seems that those liberals who feared that a Justice Thomas would vote to reverse Roe v. Wade, and return the issue of abortion to state voters, were correct.

Bump for the best justice on the Supreme Court in our time.

4 posted on 05/02/2007 8:52:39 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: RWR8189
Thomas has emerged as a muscular proponent of states’ rights, again countering decades’ worth of constitutional law, which has cut back on state power and signed off on a massive expansion of the federal government

The entire game changed with adoption of the XIVth Amend. FedGov takes more power every day, one of the four main purposes of the Amend.

5 posted on 05/02/2007 8:57:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: RWR8189

Great post!


6 posted on 05/02/2007 8:58:15 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: RWR8189

“Whenever possible, the Court and judges generally should adopt clear, bright-line rules that, as I like to say to my law clerks, you can explain to the gas station attendant as easily as to a law professor.”

The distortions of law become the convoluted, complex and bizarre contortions the liberal judges engage in to find abortion, but not a right to bear arms, written in the U.S. Constitution. As the Supreme Court of Washington state once said, “There is nothing unconstitutional about common sense.”


7 posted on 05/02/2007 9:05:29 AM PDT by Spok
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To: RWR8189

Great justice, great post. Saving a bookmark for later.


8 posted on 05/02/2007 9:09:37 AM PDT by AntiFed
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To: RWR8189

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9 posted on 05/02/2007 9:31:06 AM PDT by chile
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To: sageb1

I totally agree with Justice Thomas’ view of the constitution, but I have to say that his opinions, from the ones I have read, are NOT clear, concise, and easy to follow.


10 posted on 05/02/2007 9:38:22 AM PDT by jdub
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To: RWR8189

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11 posted on 05/02/2007 9:44:53 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Lurker; y'all
Lurker wrote:
Appointing this man to SCOTUS was one of the two redeeming events of the Bush Sr Presidency.

I agree on Thomas . -- but not with all the authors conclusions about him:

"-- Thomas's critics often describe him as the kind of judge who endangers our democracy and our rights, because his jurisprudence would permit state establishments of religion, and in general allow states to "legislate morality" -- snip ---

But it isn't clear, to put it mildly, how showing fidelity to our republic's founding document and ideals is undemocratic.
In fact, Thomas's philosophy, which he can trace to Alexander Hamilton, the first "originalist," is far more democratic than the leftist alternative. Thomas takes seriously the document that Americans' representatives ratified in 1789 and insists that only Americans' representatives change it today—not nine unrepresentative lawyers, sitting in a marble palace in Washington.

I doubt that Thomas would agree that "Americans' representatives" can change it today in order to "-- in general allow states to "legislate morality" --".

Last time I looked, our constitution can only be changed by Amendment; - amendments that are "in pursuance thereof", - of liberty.

12 posted on 05/02/2007 9:53:14 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: Jim Robinson

FYI


13 posted on 05/02/2007 10:00:17 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: RWR8189

Thomas is a great Justice!


14 posted on 05/02/2007 10:08:34 AM PDT by Gritty (When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing - they believe in anything-GK Chest)
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To: jdub
I suspect the problem is not Thomas, but yourself...and here's an excerpt from a 1998 speech, "I am a man, a black man, an American," given to the largely black National Bar Association...

"I, for one, have been singled out for particularly bilious and venomous assaults. These criticisms, as near as I can tell, and I admit that it is rare that I take notice of this calumny, have little to do with any particular opinion, though each opinion does provide one more occasion to criticize. Rather, the principal problem seems to be a deeper antecedent offense: I have no right to think the way I do because I'm black."

Or this powerful passage, from the conclusion of the speech:

"It pains me deeply, or more deeply than any of you can imagine, to be perceived by so many members of my race as doing them harm. All the sacrifice, all the long hours of preparation were to help, not to hurt. But what hurts more, much more, is the amount of time and attention spent on manufactured controversies and media sideshows when so many problems cry out for constructive attention.

"I have come here today not in anger or to anger, though my mere presence has been sufficient, obviously, to anger some. Nor have I come to defend my views, but rather to assert my right to think for myself, to refuse to have my ideas assigned to me as though I was an intellectual slave because I'm black.

"I come to state that I'm a man, free to think for myself and do as I please."

15 posted on 05/02/2007 10:10:20 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: sageb1

Right : Bookmark.

Though I think that the First and Second Amendment are big, I have to state that Thomas’ position on the Tenth Amendment is the most important to look at nowadays. Overturning the century worth of minimalizing the States’ rights has to be done in order to restore America.


16 posted on 05/02/2007 10:15:24 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: gogeo; jdub

A large part of the difficult to understand way Thomas writes his opinions has not to do with the Constitution, which he cites and supports with clarity, but rather the way the Court’s prior decisions are so convoluted. He often endeavors to dethread those decisions, and that is usually a crazy task.


17 posted on 05/02/2007 10:21:34 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: RWR8189
I saw him speak in Tenn and Alabama, my Southern Cousins, very powerful, in a kind of Southern Black Baptist delivery, well done.

I watched the hearings when he was nominated and that fat drunken murderer tried to sink him, I was disgusted.

18 posted on 05/02/2007 11:11:11 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: jdub
but I have to say that his opinions, from the ones I have read, are NOT clear, concise, and easy to follow.

That was not my take on him while in law school. A man of principle and conviction means what he says, and says what he means. Occasionally Scalia throws me for a loop. Like the Commerce Clause case out of CA regarding marijuana. Anyways, that is just my take on the issue of Thomas and his writing.

19 posted on 05/02/2007 1:29:15 PM PDT by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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The only restriction on amendments to the constitution is the need to get so many people to agree on it. No mechanisn exists, for example, to prevent the governments from striking the religion clauses of the first amendment and establishing a state religion. If you could convince the congress and 38 states to go along with it, it would happen. Prohibition happened this way.


20 posted on 05/02/2007 2:29:39 PM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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I agree that Thomas is a great judge. -- but not with all the authors conclusions about him:

"-- Thomas's critics often describe him as the kind of judge who endangers our democracy and our rights, because his jurisprudence would permit state establishments of religion, and in general allow states to "legislate morality" -- snip ---
But it isn't clear, to put it mildly, how showing fidelity to our republic's founding document and ideals is undemocratic.
In fact, Thomas's philosophy, which he can trace to Alexander Hamilton, the first "originalist," is far more democratic than the leftist alternative.
Thomas takes seriously the document that Americans' representatives ratified in 1789 and insists that only Americans' representatives change it today—not nine unrepresentative lawyers, sitting in a marble palace in Washington. --"

I doubt that Thomas would agree that "Americans' representatives" can change it today in order to "-- in general allow states to "legislate morality" --".
Last time I looked, our constitution can only be changed by Amendment; - amendments that are "in Pursuance thereof", - of liberty. [see Art VI]

Sig:
The only restriction on amendments to the constitution is the need to get so many people to agree on it.

Not so. - Amendments that deprive us of our inalienable rights to life, liberty or property would be repugnant to the documents basic principles.

No mechanisn exists, for example, to prevent the governments from striking the religion clauses of the first amendment and establishing a state religion.

The Mormons tried to establish a 'state religion' in Utah. Congress refused admission of such a State. - Every State must have a "Republican Form of Government". -- An amendment allowing/mandating a 'religious form of government' in a State would violate all of our principles of individuals having religious freedom.

If you could convince the congress and 38 states to go along with it, it would happen. Prohibition happened this way.

Yep, prohibition was a prime example of super 'majority rule', that should have been ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.

It has been said that the SCOTUS could 'strike down' an Amendment as unconstitutional. -- And that exact point was argued before them in 1919, in a move to nullify the 18th.

"-- The Supreme Court issued its most sweeping decision concerning the Eighteenth Amendment in June 1920. Seven cases, each raising fundamental questions concerning the constitutionality of the amendment, were consolidated by the Court and labeled the National Prohibition Cases.
A host of highly regarded attorneys, including Elihu Root, William D. Guthrie, and Levy Mayer, as well as Herbert A. Rice and Thomas F. McCran, attorneys general for Rhode Island and New Jersey respectively, represented the appellants. The oral arguments lasted for five days, an unusually long time for even the most important cases.

The argument of Elihu Root attracted the most attention. The former Secretary of War, Secretary of State, and senator represented a New Jersey brewer.

Root asserted that the Eighteenth Amendment was simply unconstitutional.

Root from the outset opposed the form, spirit, purpose, and effect of the Eighteenth Amendment. He told friends that its denial of personal liberty, its potential for eroding respect for law, and its alteration of the balance between local and national government alarmed him."

Root gave a memorable peroration: 
" --- If your Honors shall find a way to declare this so-called Amendment to the Federal Constitution valid, then the Government of the United States as it has been known to us and to our forefathers will have ceased to exist.
Your Honors will have discovered a new legislative authority hitherto unknown to the Constitution and quite untrammelled by any of its limitations.
You will have declared that two thirds of a quorum of each House of the Congress, plus a majority of a quorum of each of the two Houses of the Legislatures of three fourths of the States, may enact any legislation they please without any reference to the limitations of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights itself.

In that case, Your Honors, John Marshall need never have sat upon that bench." ---"


The Court decreed the Amendment to be valid. -- Without commenting on the validity of Roots argument; it's validation had wait 13 years, -- for repeal.

21 posted on 05/02/2007 3:41:27 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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