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The Film PBS Doesn't Want You to See - Islam vs Islamists
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Posted on 05/02/2007 7:23:54 PM PDT by nuconvert

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To: Mr. Mojo

If I may suggest a very good book.
The War of Ideas: Jihadism against Democracy (Hardcover)
by Walid Phares

http://www.amazon.com/War-Ideas-Jihadism-against-Democracy/dp/1403976392

Walid Phares has long been among the most knowledgeable and incisive scholars of the Middle East—its peoples, its cultures, its religions, and its radical movements.”
—U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman

“This book is a ‘must read’ for those who want to understand the jihad radical Islamists are waging against democracies. Walid Phares has a gift for being able to identify the root causes of the war and what the West and the free world must do to prevail.”
—Oliver North, host of FOX News’s “War Stories”

“The work of Professor Walid Phares is a beacon that helps us to see and understand the extent of the Jihadist threat the World is facing. Nobody who reads his analysis will have any doubt left about the existential peril posed by the radical Islamists and Jihadi terrorists to democracies. A must read.”
—Jose Maria Aznar, Former Prime Minister of Spain

“Dr. Phares’s knowledge of the War of Ideas and the complex conflicts of the Greater Middle East is exceptional. His ability to communicate intellectually among various cultures is noted regionally and internationally.”
—Dr. Barham Salih, Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq

“If you want to understand the War of Ideas being waged by Jihadists, Walid Phares is your man.”
—U.S. Congresswoman Sue Myrick

Well worth the time spent reading it. For some reason it’s not getting a lot of play, and I don’t really understand why.


21 posted on 05/03/2007 7:31:00 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: nuconvert

done


22 posted on 05/03/2007 11:06:05 AM PDT by dervish (Remember Amalek)
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To: James W. Fannin
Perhaps it was spiked because it proves that the “moderates” are irrelevant. That’s obvious already, though.

The point of the documentary is to make the moderates precisely 'not irrelevant'. . .and certainly the Left prefers that they be just that. Far better for them to cater to the jihadists whom they are already aligned with.

23 posted on 05/03/2007 4:01:25 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: cricket

There’s another view, but you’re too hopeful to see it. Hope may or may not win this war, though.


24 posted on 05/03/2007 4:04:07 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: Eurotwit; nuconvert; Valin; Clintonfatigued; SunkenCiv
It wasn't just the the U.S. government's response to the Jyllands Posten controversy manufactured by Abu Labon that was dissappointing-although that was infuriating enough-but the complete hypocrisy shown by the so-called news media during that whole sorry episode.

That just demonstrated-once and for all-that all of the delusions of the American press serving some vital function in society don't stand up to serious scrutiny.

Naser Khader was great in that documentary, as was Mohammed Sifaoui.


25 posted on 05/04/2007 6:48:04 AM PDT by Wrathswraith
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To: James W. Fannin; All
There’s another view, but you’re too hopeful to see it. Hope may or may not win this war, though.

No. . .hope will not win this war. . .only by the greatest 'will and determination' can we acheive our goals.

(Imagine our war effort had it the support of a united front behind it. Would offer there could have been a huge difference in the response of the jihadist/terrorists and in the response of those Muslims who must find the 'will' to oppose them. But the Left - Nancy; Harry, Biden, Ted. . .and Hillary. . .and a host of nameless 'et als' - the stealth socialists - chose in truth; to support the goals of our enemy; rather than our Military and our Country.)

Meantime and instead, the Left is doing it's best to insure that again, a capitalistic; free and democratic America should never again 'win' over a totalitarian one. They cheer for our defeat. . .now; as they did during Vietnam. In power today; the agenda and MO of the Left, remains the same. . .

26 posted on 05/04/2007 6:50:25 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: Wrathswraith

Great book.

Inside Al Qaeda: How I Infiltrated the World’s Deadliest Terrorist Organization (Paperback)
by Mohamed Sifaoui (Author), George Miller (Translator)

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Qaeda-Infiltrated-Deadliest-Organization/dp/1560256109/ref=sr_1_2/104-6805483-7224733?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178286930&sr=8-2

Book Description
In February 1996, Mohamed Sifaoui, an Algerian-born journalist, survived a bomb attack that killed several friends and colleagues-and thirty passers-by. “That day I realized something fundamental: I absolutely had to fight the fascist ideology of the Islamists and those who supported it, so that I would never again have to leave somewhere hoping that a bomb wouldn’t go off.” While covering a trial in 2002 Sifaoui came into contact with members of an active Al Qaeda cell in Paris. Sifaoui invented an identity and was able to win their trust and convince the terrorists that he shared their aims. Posing as Djamel Mostaghanemi, a pro-fundamentalist journalist, Sifaoui recorded and filmed his new associates speaking with alarming frankness about how they attract new recruits to the jihad, raise funds, spread propaganda, and, most chilling, identify targets for attack. Facing the possibility of exposure all the time, Sifaoui was at great personal risk, never more so than when he penetrated deep into the organization’s hierarchy and was invited to meetings in London, Al Qaeda’s European nerve center. A shocking diary, Inside Al Qaeda is also a testimony to one man’s display of courage in the pursuit of truth.


27 posted on 05/04/2007 6:58:35 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
Concise, but well worth reading.

It's interesting, because I hadn't known that Sifaoui was involved in the Khadr situation until I watched the film.

Apparently he was involved in taping undercover footage that led to the indictment of Labon's followers in a plot to assassinate him.

Labon is deceased-praise be Allah-but his demented followers are still swarming the streets of Copenhagen, unfortunately.

28 posted on 05/04/2007 7:18:22 AM PDT by Wrathswraith
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To: Wrathswraith
Stupid question time. The category choosen is Films, and the question is, what film and for bonus points where can I see it.
29 posted on 05/04/2007 7:46:30 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Wrathswraith

Thanks!


30 posted on 05/04/2007 8:20:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, May 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cricket; B4Ranch
They cheer for our defeat. . .now; as they did during Vietnam. In power today; the agenda and MO of the Left, remains the same. . .

Three things come to mind in response to your sincere reply. To summarize all three responses, it's a different war. It's not simply a regional communist flare up in the midst of a cold global war.

  1. Islam is not communism, and communism has evolved into fascism abroad (China) and neo-Marxist intellectual thought here in the west (multiculturalism, feminism, academic post-structualism). In other words, we have multiple enemies now. Islam is much older than communism, and it should not be categorized into a generic collection of "tyrannical political systems" like Nazism or communism. It's a religion, first and foremost.
  2. The Islamic population explosion adds a hidden dimension to this war unlike any other before it. WWII lacked this component, although Hitler may have planned to use it by aligning with Islam. The Asian population differential during Korea and Vietnam came close, but nothing like what we're seeing today.
  3. We currently have the power to win, but we don't use it both because we lack the will, and because we believe it would be immoral to do what is required. Someday we may not have enough power. We are losing the political power to carry out the war as it currently is being fought.
Seeing that 'Greatest will and determination' may not be enough to complete our goals as defined in 2003 is the first step toward finding a new course. The GOP has already lost a significant amount of political power because it has steadfastly refused to change course. Losing more power may provoke more careful consideration.

One very similar feature to this war is that our elites believed that we could fight limited wars both in the early 1960s and today in the oughts. They've proved both times that it's a political liability, even if it's economically and militarily possible.

One thing the Vietnam war planners and our Iraq war planners have in common is globalism. Both groups believed in a world where markets and democracy could prevail despite the indigenous tendencies and histories.

I think it's time to give up these dreams of a unified, democratic world and recognize our need to defend our own borders and culture (where democratic values used to prevail) first. We can help those who want it, and we can even disarm those who refuse to accept our terms, but we should disabuse ourselves of any dreams of democratizing savages.

31 posted on 05/04/2007 4:54:13 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: James W. Fannin
An accurate and well defined post of our current situation is personally stressing, needless to say it is also heart breaking to read.

>>We currently have the power to win, but we don’t use it both because we lack the will, and because we believe it would be immoral to do what is required.<<

The next time we are attacked will we find the resolve to defend our nation or continue to disintegrate?

32 posted on 05/04/2007 7:23:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: cricket

>>No. . .hope will not win this war. . .only by the greatest ‘will and determination’ can we acheive our goals.<

I keep asking myself if our goals are the same goals the common Iraqi citizen has. I don’t think so. Our definition of freedom is much more detailed and elaborate than they have ever known.


33 posted on 05/04/2007 7:27:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: cricket; James W. Fannin

asking for #34 and 35 to be pulled! Mistake compounded and waste of space!


36 posted on 05/05/2007 5:46:18 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: cricket

I think my point about democrtizing savages has a couple of aspects worth articulating further. First, backwards cultures can’t be democratized, not here and not there (overseas). It takes an advanced culture to accept and maintain democracy. (We’re regressing here via immigration and self-propagandizing, but that’s a different topic.) The Greatest Generation took it on blind faith that we could democratize the world, but there is now ample evidence that it doesn’t work. People have to fight for their own freedoms.

Second, if we ever plan to continue supporting democracy where it is actually wanted overseas, we’d better defend it at home as if it were the most precious thing we have. That means standing up against anyone who threatens the Republic with unconstitutional ideas/policies. It means making the abortionists famous. It means calling out those who would corrupt our youth. That means upholding Article IV of the constitution and defending America against enemies foreign and domestic. That at least means closing the borders pronto! It also means fiscal and trade policies which do not undercut the American family and its small business core. That means intelligent trade, meaning an end to CAFTA/NAFTA/MFN immediately.

We can’t save the world if we don’t lift a finger to protect our own families and our own culture.


37 posted on 05/05/2007 6:09:27 AM PDT by James W. Fannin
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