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CNN'S DOBBS ON '60 MINUTES': U.S. COULD DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS
Drudge Report ^ | May 3, 2007 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/03/2007 11:39:32 AM PDT by Reagan Man

He has never called for the deportation of all illegal immigrants, but Lou Dobbs believes the U.S. could pull off such a feat if it really wanted to. The CNN anchor, whose stance against illegal immigration has helped raise his ratings but also fueled criticism, speaks to Lesley Stahl for a profile to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, May 6 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Dobbs is against amnesty programs for illegal immigrants and the president's guest worker proposal, so Stahl wonders whether Dobbs thinks the government could deport all illegal immigrants. "I've never called for their deportation,"says Dobbs. "But at the same time, when this president and open-borders, illegal-alien-amnesty advocates say, 'You can't deport them,' my answer is, 'You want to bet?' because this is the United States. I think this country can do anything it sets its mind to," he tells Stahl.

The former host of "Moneyline" for over 20 years, a business program on CNN, Dobbs has transformed himself into a purveyor of "News, debate and opinion" in the words used to introduce his current CNN program, "Lou Dobbs Tonight." The debate is often about illegal immigration. He is a believer in curtailing illegal immigrants' access to some social services. "I happen to think that it is necessary, given the fact that the federal government won't control immigration and won't control our borders," Dobbs tells Stahl. Dobbs says he's not for shutting off medical services, but illegal immigrants' use of other entitlements and the public schools is problematic. "Going to food stamps Ð should taxpayers be paying for food stamps? Should taxpayers be burdened with schools that are overcrowded?" Dobbs asks. "[Taxpayers'] children, therefore, are being denied education. Those are very serious issues," he says.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus accused Dobbs of being anti-Hispanic for these types of views. "I was asked if I'd ever eaten a taco before, for God's sake," says Dobbs, who has been married to a Mexican-American for 25 years. Hispanics have called for his job and Dobbs finds such criticism ironic because he grew up on a small farm and picked crops alongside migrants. "I am probably one of the few people in the debate who actually has [worked with migrants]. I've got the greatest respect for those folks," he tells Stahl.

Dobbs' opinions are a main feature of his nightly program, behavior that would exclude him from the classic definition of journalist as an objective reporter. Nevertheless, he still considers himself a journalist. Here's his opinion on that: "The idea that a reporter should be disqualified because he or she actually cares, actually isn't neutral about the well-being of the country and its people, that's absurd," he tells Stahl.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; aliens; deport; fence; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; loudobbs; mexico; wall
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1 posted on 05/03/2007 11:39:33 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
No need to deport them. Make (and enforce) sufficiently onerous penalties against employers and landlords of illegals and they'll deport themselves virtually overnight.

No need to build a wall - the only cost is the cost of the time and ink to write the law.

Of course that makes too much sense for the pre-WWIII US to implement.

Remember when the US Post Office advertised $10,000 penalties and prison sentences for taking the ink pens from the building? Guess how many pens got stolen?

2 posted on 05/03/2007 11:45:15 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: The Duke
Of course that makes too much sense for the pre-WWIII US to implement.

WWIII was the Cold War. We are already in WWIV.

3 posted on 05/03/2007 11:47:10 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Reagan Man; gubamyster; HiJinx

Ike did it...so can Bush!

These people need to go home and get in line like everyone else.

Bush claims they have deported SIX MILLION illegals;
if they can deport six, they can certainly double their efforts and deport the rest!

Case closed!


4 posted on 05/03/2007 11:47:50 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Reagan Man

I’m not sure we’d like what the end result would be for our nation if we tried to round them up and ship them out en masse.

Secure the border, cut off all funding for social services of any type, excluding life threatening emergencies, and deport those you take in via the emergency rooms.

Make it a felony for a CEO/COO & CFO for any company found to employ illegals. 5 year federal prison term, mandatory, with a fine of ten percent of the company’s estimated net worth.

Likewise, make it a felony for any property owner to rent or sell to an illegal.

Any state that doesn’t comply, cut off all federal funding at every level til the state gets with the program.

With five years, there would be a reverse of the tide back to Mexico, and elsewhere.


5 posted on 05/03/2007 11:49:35 AM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: Reagan Man
"The Congressional Hispanic Caucus accused Dobbs of being anti-Hispanic for these types of views. "I was asked if I'd ever eaten a taco before, for God's sake," says Dobbs, who has been married to a Mexican-American for 25 years."

Cool..

sw

6 posted on 05/03/2007 11:50:06 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: kellynla
>>>>>Ike did it...so can Bush!

Yep. Operation Wetback worked.

7 posted on 05/03/2007 11:50:10 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Cease allowing them to be parasites here and they will deport themselves.


8 posted on 05/03/2007 11:50:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: Reagan Man

I wonder if 60 Minutes will dare label him as a Democrat?

He is a Democrat. He spent 2006 trying to defeat the GOP with his “Broken Government” shows.


9 posted on 05/03/2007 11:50:22 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Reagan Man

I wonder if 60 Minutes will dare label him as a Democrat?

He is a Democrat. He spent 2006 trying to defeat the GOP with his “Broken Government” shows.


10 posted on 05/03/2007 11:50:23 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: kellynla
Bush claims they have deported SIX MILLION illegals

Do you have a source for this? Not a challenge, just a question....
11 posted on 05/03/2007 11:51:25 AM PDT by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: Reagan Man
He's a liberal hack, IMO.

It's a poor attempt to paint the GOP as being anti-immigrant. As if the donkey party would do anything differently than the GOP regarding immigration.

12 posted on 05/03/2007 11:52:05 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Reagan Man

Lou Dobbs is right.

President Eisenhower caused millions to return to Mexico under ‘Operation Wetback’ in less than a year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

A similar operation today combined with a policy of attrition would lead to tens of millions fleeing the USA within two-three years.


13 posted on 05/03/2007 11:52:12 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Reagan Man

‘You want to bet?’


14 posted on 05/03/2007 11:52:20 AM PDT by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: The Duke
"No need to deport them. Make (and enforce) sufficiently onerous penalties against employers and landlords of illegals and they'll deport themselves virtually overnight."

That solution seems obvious to me, why is there so little support for this approach in Washington?
15 posted on 05/03/2007 11:52:34 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Reagan Man

Sure!...It would be just fine with me if the Federal government took some of that big chunk of my check that I send them to get a huge fleet of buses. It could then send them all over the country to pre-arranged deportation centers and over a period of months or however long it takes, drive them to the border where they disembark and return to Mexico. Of course this assumes the wall is in place!.....


16 posted on 05/03/2007 11:53:27 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: The South Texan
Lou Dobbs is a self-proclaimed life-long Republican who is disillusioned with Out-sourcing and Illegal immigration.

sw

17 posted on 05/03/2007 11:56:00 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


18 posted on 05/03/2007 11:56:38 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Reagan Man
CNN'S DOBBS ON '60 MINUTES': U.S. COULD DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS

Right, Lou...after all, how much trouble could 15 million pissed off people make?

Piece of cake...

19 posted on 05/03/2007 11:58:21 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: The Duke

I agree with your first part, but we do need a wall because we have terrorist crossing as Mexicans and we can’t leave all of the borders without walls.


20 posted on 05/03/2007 11:59:32 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Badeye
>>>>>Make it a felony for a CEO/COO & CFO for any company found to employ illegals. 5 year federal prison term, mandatory, with a fine of ten percent of the company’s estimated net worth.

Pres Reagan said he would sign the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act into law if it stipulated tough employer sanction provisions. Reagan got his way. IRCA included tough employer sanctions and up to a million dollar fine against any employer hiring illegals. In 1987 Ted Kennedy gutted those enforcement provisions after the Senate was back in the hands of the Dems. Leading to 20 years of liberal immigration policy from Bush41 to Bush43. BTW, the IRCA of 1986 is still a law on the books.

I'm not advocating mass deportation either, but I agree with Dobbs, if could be done. We might have some civil unrest, but its doable. Better yet, secure the borders, enforce employer sanctions and stop all welfare handouts to illegals. Build that wall and protect America, NOW!

21 posted on 05/03/2007 12:00:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: kellynla

Only if they take Lou Dobbs with them.


22 posted on 05/03/2007 12:02:00 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Reagan Man
Dobbs ratings must be down since his “Death of the Middle Class” series.
23 posted on 05/03/2007 12:02:36 PM PDT by poobear
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To: spectre

“Lou Dobbs is a self-proclaimed life-long Republican who is disillusioned with Out-sourcing and Illegal immigration.”

Who didn’t make a fuss about it during the Clinton years......


24 posted on 05/03/2007 12:03:14 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: spectre
Lou Dobbs left CNN show to go off to his space blog or whatever. To come back with a show he probably had to promise to be as big a #rick as the other anchors.
25 posted on 05/03/2007 12:05:35 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Reagan Man

I remember. Thanks for bringing that up, many don’t understand what happened after Reagan signed the bill.


26 posted on 05/03/2007 12:06:19 PM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: The Duke

At least one that I know of!!! LOL


27 posted on 05/03/2007 12:07:59 PM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: Reagan Man
Oh sure, it's abundantly feasible to background check ANYONE renting an appt or getting a job. It's super easy to check up on ice-cream truck drivers, teachers, day-care workers, yep...the infrastructure is there. Check on anyone buying a gun, oh, yeah....old hat.

The process is speedy and reliable.

But check to establish that they're here LEGALLY...? Ooh, no..! That's very DIFFICULT..! It's....COMPLEX.

No more questions permitted.

29 posted on 05/03/2007 12:09:08 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: The Duke
" onerous penalties against employers and landlords of illegals"

Bump!

30 posted on 05/03/2007 12:11:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: itsamelman
Bush claims they have deported SIX MILLION illegals
Do you have a source for this?

My guess is that Bush is counting the people who were stopped at the border and not about people who went through the deportation process.

President Bush Discusses Comprehensive Immigration Reform in Nebraska
June 7, 2006

"And since 2001, we've apprehended and sent back six million people trying to get in the country."

31 posted on 05/03/2007 12:11:51 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: jaydubya2

>>>”No need to deport them. Make (and enforce) sufficiently onerous penalties against employers and landlords of illegals and they’ll deport themselves virtually overnight.”

>>That solution seems obvious to me, why is there so little support for this approach in Washington?

Two words - Dow 13,000.
Free trade and open borders appear to be good for corporate America.


32 posted on 05/03/2007 12:12:06 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203
"Two words - Dow 13,000. Free trade and open borders appear to be good for corporate America."

You're probably right. If the dow crashes and unemployment rises, the Illegal issue is going to get very serious.
33 posted on 05/03/2007 12:15:27 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: The Duke

Reagan Man’s answer is to punish – punish some more and if that does not work increase the punishments.

This is the answer the Left uses to Socially Engineer Society. Are you a conservative or a harsh right-winger?

The laws are in place; just enforce them by funding them. It is like the seat-belt laws. Have the press attend each deportation and the word will get out. After a year of this they will begin to leave on their own. If an illegal returns, and is caught, then prison work-gang time is required. Let them build the fences on the border. We should look to justice and building the border fence is only social justice.
Regarding punishing the landlords etc- that is a road to us spying on ourselves.

You can get a fake identity card for $50 here in Los Angeles.


34 posted on 05/03/2007 12:15:55 PM PDT by EdArt (Benedict Arnold Patriot Brigade)
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To: Reagan Man

I hated Chrissie Fit Matthews except when he was railing against Clintoon during the impeachment.

I hate Dobbs except when he is railing against illegal immigration.

Must be a stopped clock thing.


35 posted on 05/03/2007 12:16:48 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Reagan Man
Mexicans are wonderful, but a disproportionate % of illegals are child molesters. It's too bad we do nothing to KEEP KIDS SAFER.

We should step up deportations FOR THE CHILDREN.

HELP KEEP KIDS SAFE. Deport FOR THE CHILDREN.

36 posted on 05/03/2007 12:17:09 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Reagan Man

37 posted on 05/03/2007 12:19:28 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Reagan Man
Right!

He says drawing a deep breath, and holding....

.....and holding..................

.................and holding...............

............................and holding........!!

.....and h o l d i n g!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and expiring!

38 posted on 05/03/2007 12:20:19 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Badeye
Make it a felony for a CEO/COO & CFO for any company found to employ illegals. 5 year federal prison term, mandatory, with a fine of ten percent of the company’s estimated net worth.

Likewise, make it a felony for any property owner to rent or sell to an illegal.

Any state that doesn’t comply, cut off all federal funding at every level til the state gets with the program.

With five years, there would be a reverse of the tide back to Mexico, and elsewhere.

Sounds good, but my only question to you is: In order to make all of that work, it would take a National ID Card, and that means that YOU would have to show it for all of those transactions, too.

Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?

39 posted on 05/03/2007 12:23:38 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Sounds good, but my only question to you is: In order to make all of that work, it would take a National ID Card, and that means that YOU would have to show it for all of those transactions, too.

Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?’

Its my position the Social Security Card is already our ‘national ID card’. Verifying a SSN number costs less than 45 cents per check. And it takes, literally, seconds to do so.


40 posted on 05/03/2007 12:25:53 PM PDT by Badeye (Hiding the kooks in the biker bar won't help, Sally)
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To: kellynla
Ike did it...so can Bush!

Dream on Bush has the opposite intention, he wants the borders erased period.

41 posted on 05/03/2007 12:28:30 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: EdArt
Legislation of the type contained in House bill HR4437, an enforcement first policy on immigration reform, that includes a strict border security, tough employer sanctions and a halt to welfare for most illegals, IS NOT liberal social engineering.

If you break any existing or future immigration laws of America you should face prosecution. Illegal aliens who break US immigration laws are engaging in and promoting anarchy and chaos. They should be punished. The US is a nation of laws.

Btw, zing me, ping me. Thanks

42 posted on 05/03/2007 12:28:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

On the issue of opposing amnesty, opposing open borders and opposing liberal immigration policy, Lou Dobbs is right.

43 posted on 05/03/2007 12:31:09 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Yo-Yo
>>>>Are you willing to accept a National ID Card?

We've already have a national ID card of sorts. Its called a Social Security card.

44 posted on 05/03/2007 12:33:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: mimaw
If you don't like Dobbs, you're an Illegal or a total Bushbot...

sw

45 posted on 05/03/2007 12:33:36 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

I bet your part of the former Buchanan Brigades.


46 posted on 05/03/2007 12:37:56 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: mimaw
LOL..

I'll bet you back Rudy?

sw

47 posted on 05/03/2007 12:39:39 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Reagan Man

The social welfare programs are a major incentive for Hispanics. Stop that and you reduce the reasons for staying. Although there are thousands of Asians and others who have over stayed their visas that do not use the welfare system. They work for cash at low rates.

I live in Los Angeles. One block away from where I live was the final staging area for the big illegal rally(300,000 people) demanding their rights. Unless you could have seen this in person you have no idea how this was about political power.

When a government creates harsh laws that are not commensurate to the crimes it breeds contempt. That is why a just law builds support. Some of the ideas I have seen presented here are beyond the pale.


48 posted on 05/03/2007 12:40:02 PM PDT by EdArt (Benedict Arnold Patriot Brigade)
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To: itsamelman; DumpsterDiver

Bush claims they have deported SIX MILLION illegals

Do you have a source for this? Not a challenge, just a question....

“Bush on Monday said that during his administration, increased border patrol and security efforts have led to more than 6 million illegal immigrants being deported”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189160,00.html

You guys just think I make this stuff up as I go. LOL


49 posted on 05/03/2007 12:42:03 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: spectre
I will back whoever can keep a dem out of the White House.
50 posted on 05/03/2007 12:45:22 PM PDT by mimaw
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