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The Democrats' War Plan
Newsweek ^ | May 4, 2007 | Eleanor Clift

Posted on 05/04/2007 11:12:31 AM PDT by jazusamo

May 4, 2007 - Texas Republican Louie Gohmert is famous on the Internet for saying we’d all be speaking Japanese or German if an anti-war Democrat like John Murtha had been in Congress during World War II. Murtha, a gruff ex-Marine who served in Korea and Vietnam, was on the House floor when Gohmert made his remark. Was the gentleman from Texas at Normandy, Vietnam, Murtha jabbed. The answer was no. What about Iraq? “I’ve been over there,” Gohmert replied, “but I wasn’t fighting.”

“Suits on the ground,” Murtha harrumphed.

The video clip of this exchange got a hundred thousand hits on YouTube at a time last year when the Republicans were calling Democrats terrorist-coddlers and defeatists. A more recent video of Pennsylvania Rep. Patrick Murphy calling for a moment of silence to mark the fourth anniversary of the Iraq War—and to honor the 19 members of the 82nd Airborne unit he served in who didn’t make it home—has gotten 13,000 hits.

Thanks to technology, what goes on in the confines of Congress doesn’t have to stay in the chambers’ corridors. “There’s no more transparent moment than putting something on the Internet,” says Karina Newton, director of new media for Speaker Pelosi. It’s her job to glean the moments and put them out on YouTube, and what breaks through is sometimes a surprise. Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank being heckled by Republicans and asking, “Does whining come out of my time,” drew nearly 50,000 hits. A 10-minute clip of bureaucratic jousting about what constitutes a power-point presentation attracted almost 100,000 viewers. “It’s where the message and the medium come together,” says Newton, echoing Marshall McLuhan, whose “the medium is the message” defined the television age.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cutandrundems; iraqwar
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17 RINO Reps for Iraq Resolution

Mike Castle (DE) Howard Coble (NC) Tom Davis (VA) John Duncan (TN) Phil English (PA) Wayne Gilchrest (MA) Bob Inglis (SC) Tim Johnson (IL) Walter Jones (NC) Ric Keller (FL) Mark Kirk (IL) Steven LaTourette (OH) Ron Paul (TX) Thomas Petri (WI) Jim Ramstad (MN) Fred Upton (MI) Jim Walsh (NY)

1 posted on 05/04/2007 11:12:32 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

“a gruff ex-Marine who served in Korea and Vietnam, “

Whoa, Murtha was in Korea? When?

I didn’t know that! I think he was still in boot camp when the war ended?

Newsweek didn’t fact check or am I wrong?


2 posted on 05/04/2007 11:22:02 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Al Gator

Clift is her usual self, didn’t check the facts. Murtha never served in Korea and in Vietnam he was an intel officer in the rear.


3 posted on 05/04/2007 11:24:28 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Al Gator

Murtha was never in Korea. Newsweek as always is making stuff up.


4 posted on 05/04/2007 11:24:59 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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To: jazusamo; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper
Wayne Gilchrest (MA)

That's Wayne Gilchrest of the People's Republic of Maryland.

To my everlasting shame.

5 posted on 05/04/2007 11:26:54 AM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: jazusamo

Gilchrest ain’t from MA. We don’t have a Republican ANYTHING up here.


6 posted on 05/04/2007 11:27:57 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Al Gator
Never mind those silly facts! Just pay attenion to the message!.........Now, back to American Idol re-runs.........
7 posted on 05/04/2007 11:28:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: SolidWood

I thought maybe I was losing it!

Murtha’s own bio says nothing about a stint in Korea.

Newsweek, when you need news, just invent it!

Creative copy at its finest.


8 posted on 05/04/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: johnny7
Gilchrest ain’t from MA. We don’t have a Republican ANYTHING up here.

You're correct, he's from Maryland.

9 posted on 05/04/2007 11:30:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Al Gator

Murtha is not a Marine. He is a slug.


10 posted on 05/04/2007 11:33:32 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Al Gator

The Democrats' Plan

11 posted on 05/04/2007 11:38:22 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Retreat and Surrender? Or dressing up as German Soldiers and marching down a road with a white flag?

LOL!


12 posted on 05/04/2007 11:40:30 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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To: Al Gator

“Murtha’s own bio says nothing about a stint in Korea.”

Seeing that this article was written by Clift put it all in perspective. She’s one of the most shameless Marxist hacks in an industry full of them, and even more so than others, she can’t be bothered with facts.


13 posted on 05/04/2007 11:41:32 AM PDT by clearlight ("I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula"-Muhammad)
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Eleanor Clift wasn’t in Korea, Vietnam, or Iraq. Which is why she so readily worships, and is so easily seduced by the type of phony war hero we have in Murtha. It doesn’t take a veteran of any service at all, much less combat, to spot a modern day Benedict Arnold, who, by the way, Eleanor, was a combat veteran and war hero.


14 posted on 05/04/2007 11:43:11 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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A heartfelt, Thank you for your military service, Mr. Murtha!

Uh.. BTW. Did you know that Benedict Arnold was a hero to both sides? In the same war even, can you believe it?! That's John Kerry territory.

15 posted on 05/04/2007 11:49:00 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Al Gator

EX-Marine Murtha was POGUE REMF Colonel in the rear with the gear in Vietnam.


16 posted on 05/04/2007 11:50:04 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Sorry dude, Murtha was no “hero”. He spent his time in country hunker in a bunker, were, as story goes, he cut his chin.

And then clamored for PH. I know guys that got whacked really bad, and didn’t care if they got one. Murtha is a bum. And he's sounding like he's going senile too.

17 posted on 05/04/2007 11:55:11 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
"POGUE REMF"

ROFLMFAO

Haven't heard that in years!

Pop quiz, who knows what a REMF is?

rear echelon murtha (mutha) f**ker

18 posted on 05/04/2007 12:01:08 PM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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Murtha's Purple Hearts seem to be in question by some.

A Cybercast News Service investigation also reveals that one of Murtha's former Democratic congressional colleagues and a fellow decorated Vietnam veteran, Don Bailey of Pennsylvania, alleges that Murtha admitted during an emotional conversation on the floor of the U.S. House in the early 1980s that he did not deserve his Purple Hearts.

CNSNews article

19 posted on 05/04/2007 12:05:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Al Gator

Newton screened the video clips for an audience of political operatives on Capitol Hill Wednesday, as Congress moves into the next round of the war-funding standoff. The Democrats want the country to know they’re pushing back against a president who appears to be stubborn enough to stick with a failed policy in Iraq even if it means taking down his party with him.
(the lefty’s wish-me)

The ability to form a message out of the raw material of speeches and spin will ultimately determine the course of the war and who pays the price for whatever follows.
(’Bush of course’-me)

Republican presidential candidates by and large are sticking with President Bush. They’re courting GOP primary voters, and two thirds of the base still backs Bush’s war plan—even though two thirds of the country now opposes the president on the war. “We look at this politically as a branding moment,” says Tom Matzzie, political director for MoveOn. “The Republicans are bleeding. The more the president opens his mouth, the worse it gets.”

If only the left would get on board with their propaganda prowess against the ISLAMOFACISTS.


20 posted on 05/04/2007 12:08:03 PM PDT by griswold3 (Don't 'Bob Dole' me in 2008!!)
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