Britain: On the Brink of A Terrorist War

Asharq Al-Awsat ^ | 5/4/07 | Abdul Rahman Al-Rashed

[Valin]

I believe that the recent court rulings against the British Muslims [linked to Al Qaeda] were the first strike in a tough war. Britain teems with nests of serpents and scorpions of extremism who come from around the world: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Syria, Pakistan and other countries due to its flexible systems and the adoption of a policy to receive outcasts during the aftermath of World War II and the Soviet-Western conflict during which doors were opened to persecuted refugees who sought their rights. The paradox is that it is in Britain, the object of hate for many fundamentalists, where these very people practice their full rights and enjoy what they were deprived of in their native countries. Until four years ago, Britain's intellects had said that they were willing to tolerate what these people had to say out of protecting individual rights and the right to free speech and political opposition. We used to say to them that we all supported that right but that these people had no relation to freedom and unfortunately never respected the rights of others. They despised the regime that protected them and privately and publicly conspired against society. Unfortunately, these intellects turned a blind eye, believing that we pursued opponents, instead of examining the extremism phenomenon in the Arab and Muslim world to identify the nature of the problem. Several reports and articles appeared in the British media glorifying and supporting these groups both in their homelands and in Britain without realizing their extremist Fascist nature that compared to and even surpassed the capability of Nazism to destroy the social fabric.

Britain is faced with a very difficult problem, confronting a foreign enemy amid social sensitivity and slow-moving legal systems that limit its activity. A key to success is to know opponents and be capable of integrating with their community, which is possible in the Arab states because extremists share a similar background and these states have large law enforcement agencies that can detain and interrogate suspects and can even expel unwanted foreigners if it is believed that they are causing trouble. However, this is not possible to apply in Britain and therefore it will not be easy for British security to combat both the dangers of secret organizations and education provided in residential communities where extremists hide.

Unfortunately, we can only expect more terrorist operations in Britain because all indicators show that extremists have spent a number of years destroying the minds of young British Muslims under various religious and social claims, and it will not be easy to stop the waves of training or, firstly, ban extremist education.

What can the British authorities do?

I think they must do what other Muslim and non-Muslim countries have done before them—accept fighting extremists by cutting off the oxygen that sustains extremist groups: their newspapers, radio stations, televisions, forums, mosques and websites. Through publicity, they can raise funds, recruit volunteers and secure popular support within foreign communities. The question is: how can the codified British system allow that? The answer lies with the hesitant legislators who are practically on the brink of a terrorist war today. After all, pursuing extremist Muslims today is better than pursuing all Muslims tomorrow.

[Valin]

I’ll see you back in the real world. :-)

[null and void]

If either o us ever manages to get there...

[sageb1]

I find it interesting, Valin, that almost invariably, you respond to anti-Islam comments with links to the opinions of others. I would prefer to see you attempt to explain your obviously pro-Islam views in your own words occasionally. How do you feel about the ideology? What is good/bad about Islam in your view?

[Valin]

The reason I do this is I’m not a man of the written word (I’m a man of the spoken word, I can get up in front of people and talk about anything (sometimes I even know what I’m talking about). I wish I was, but because I’m not very good at writting I use the words of others...ie Dr Benard Lewis, Daniel Pipes, Walid Phares, Fouad Ajami...etc.

The problem is way too many people here buy into the Salafist/Wahhabist view of Islam. And be posting some of the things they say they are 9weather they understand it or not) are providing aid and comfort to our enemies.

[Max in Utah]

...America has no room for Muzzies.

There is no room in America for an ideology that is antithetical to the principles of our Constitution. Islam is unalterably opposed to individual rights and liberties as we know them.

"Moderate" muslims may seem good neighbors but they will ultimately bow to the extremists.

[El Gato]

Or perhaps we’ll just have to wait for Rudy to call a spade a spade.

Rudy's response will be to disarm everyone... except the extremists and criminals, who won't obey his laws or regulations. Since they will be violating the law anyway, they'll "upgrade" the nature of their weaponry. That is they'll get full auto AKs and other assault rifles, rather than the semi-auto clones they would probably otherwise have settled for.

[Valin]

Tell that to Amb. Zalmay Khalizad, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser. To name but a few.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

I LIKE that website!

[Noumenon]

This is unfortunately the case. Islam has been, is and will be a murderous tyranny. As V.S. Naipaul has said,

"I’ve been aware of madness in the Islamic world. I’ve written about it. The madness of people who have fallen behind technically, and who do not have the will to make the intellectual effort to catch up. I was aware of the religious hatred, I was aware of the indifference to life. I was aware of the anti-civilization aspect of the new fundamentalism. But I had no idea it had gone so far — the madness. The idea of their strength is an illusion. Nothing is coming from within. The terrorists can fly a plane, but what they can’t do is build a plane. What they can’t do is build those towers. I think people have spoken much rubbish about that event. The poor revenging themselves on the rich! It’s nothing but an aspect of religious hatred. And that is so hard to deal with, or even contemplate. You can deal with the poor striking out, but you can’t deal with the threat of a universal religious war.”

from Beyond Belief

[Cacique]

btt

[jordan8]

Britain is not on the brink of an Islamic terrorist war and will not be until the numbers of Muslims in Britain reach the point where they believe they can force the question of separatism, either actual physical separatism or a pre-physical legal separatism. (British troops will soon be out of the Middle East which also will diminish the recruiting drive of fanatics.) The problem in Britain is the “peaceful” immigrants, not the terrorists. Their mere presence, what they do in the voting booth, and what they do to the culture is more destructive than all the bus bombs in the world.

[sageb1]

Thanks for the response, Valin. You write just fine. I understood what you wrote here. You aren’t required to analyze translations of the Qur’an or anything. I have resources I can refer to when I need them (which is frequently). I admire your ability to speak in front of people. It’s a talent I don’t possess.

[George W. Bush]

Britain will hesitate or pursue half-measures until a major organized attack.

I expect a thousand or so Britons will have to die before they do something more effective.

To me it makes no sense. It's like letting a rattlesnake live in your living room and then acting all surprised and indignant when it finally bites you. Well, duh. What did you expect?

[Candor7]

Good old Abdul Rahman Al-Rashed has a very accurate thesis. Parts of Britain, if not all of its urban areas, will lapse into civil disorder this summer, just as it was France's turn last year, when Islamofascists youth let their power be felt. Then the French authorities humored them by not getting rough with those car burning, street gang, Muslim thugs.

In Britain it will be different than in France. The Muslims will be pounded severely by Blighty's police and just-returned-from-Afghanistan-and-Iraq Army personnel.British citizens are not accustomoed to self help, and many will be cowering in terror at this future social disorder. Many will die in houses burning, and in gang related violence, before it is brought under control by martial law.

Many will guffaw at this prediction of good old Rashed.Doubting Thomases should look at this book:

Londonistan by Melanie Phillips:

[Valin]

Even thought I don’t always agree with him he is someone I read regularly

[mtntop3]

It’s difficult enough pursuing them here - we can only imagine the difficulty there...

[Valin]

Muslim) Informants in American Service
The Strategy Page ^ | June 4, 2006 | The Strategy Page

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1643576/posts
Posted on 06/05/2006 7:56:30 AM CDT by Little Ray

A recent terrorist trial, and conviction, of an Islamic terrorists in New York City brought out the extent to which police have infiltrated Moslem communities in order to uncover terrorist plots. While most of this counter-terrorist activity within Moslem communities is kept secret, enough information has leaked out to make it clear that it’s no accident that the United States has not suffered another terrorist attack since September 11, 2001.

There is an extensive informant network within Moslem communities all over the United States. The FBI was pleasantly surprised right after September 11, 2001, by the number of calls they got from American Moslems, reporting suspicious events in their communities, or volunteering to keep an eye on things.
(snip)

[silverleaf]

Conservative countries? Where?