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The Evil We Face - FBI video shows explosive force of a shoe bomb on aircraft
News of the World (UK) ^ | May 6, 2007 | Lucy Panton

Posted on 05/06/2007 1:26:52 AM PDT by HAL9000

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An FBI video has revealed in chilling detail how a British terrorist planned to blow a passenger jet out of the sky.

The footage — obtained by the News of the World from security sources — show the shoe-bomb blast tearing a hole through the metal fuselage as if it were tin foil.

It proves that if the attack by Brit Richard Reid on American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami in 2001 had succeeded, all 197 on board would have died.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aviation; fbi; petn; richardreid; shoebomb; shoebomber; tatp; terrorism
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1 posted on 05/06/2007 1:26:55 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Friday, 28 December, 2001, 13:32 GMT
Who is Richard Reid?
Richard Reid
Reid has pleaded guilty to all eight charges against him
London-born Richard Reid has been sentenced in the United States after admitting trying to blow up a commercial flight using bombs hidden in his shoes.

The son of an English mother and Jamaican father, so-called "shoe bomber" Richard Reid was born in 1973 in the London suburb of Bromley.

I was not there to give him the love and affection he should have got

Richard Reid's father
It is hardly a natural breeding ground for dissidents - the borough's schools are among the UK's best, and street crime is half that in smarter areas such as Kensington and Chelsea.

The young Reid is said to have attended Thomas Tallis secondary school in Blackheath, south-east London, from 1984 to 1989.

His father, Robin, told BBC News he had been in prison for most of Richard's childhood.

"I was not there to give him the love and affection he should have got," he said.

His son fell into a life of petty crime and in the mid-1990s was jailed for a string of muggings, for which he served sentences in a number of prisons, including Feltham young offenders' institution in west London.

It was while at Feltham that Reid is said to have converted to Islam.

Worship

After his release, he followed the path taken by many other Muslim prisoners, to Brixton Mosque, in south London.

The place of worship has a reputation for attracting converts and helping ex-offenders re-adjust to life in the outside world.

Inmates at Feltham
Reid said to have converted to Islam at Feltham young offenders' institution
Initially he fitted in well. Taking the name Abdel Rahim, he became known for his willingness to get involved in the workings of the mosque and to learn Arabic.

But at some point Reid began to get involved with extremist elements, says the chairman of Brixton Mosque, Abdul Haqq Baker.

Reid was "tempted away" by "individuals who set up a few years ago away from the mosque", Mr Baker says.

"Their teachings were a lot more militant."

He says extremists worked on "weak characters" and believes Reid was "very, very impressionable".

Reid attended external classes and started to question the peaceful philosophy of his teachers.

Change in appearance

His appearance also changed, says Mr Baker. He went from wearing western clothes to the traditional Islamic thobe - a loose, long-sleeved, ankle-length garment - with a khaki combat jacket on top.

Abdul Haqq Baker outside the Brixton Mosque
Abdul Haqq Baker: "Reid was very impressionable"
There is speculation that at some point during his drift to a more extreme philosophy, he may have met Zacarias Moussaoui, who has been charged in the US with conspiracy over the 11 September attacks.

Mr Moussaoui, a Frenchman of Moroccan origin, also attended the Brixton Mosque during the 1990s but was expelled for his extreme views and his attempts to impose them on the younger, more easily influenced members.

Towards the end of 1998, Reid ceased worshipping at the mosque and is thought to have moved to Pakistan.

He reportedly sent several letters written in Arabic to friends in London. His mother, Lesley Hughes, who is separated from Reid's father, also believed he was in Pakistan.

But mother and son eventually lost contact and in summer 2001 Ms Hughes telephoned Brixton Mosque seeking news.

About the same time, Reid is believed to have embarked on an extensive travel programme, which saw him visit seven countries including some of the world's so-called "terror capitals".

Gone missing

He is thought to have spent time in Egypt, Israel, Turkey, Pakistan, Belgium, the Netherlands, France and possibly Afghanistan.

Zacarias Moussaoui
Moussaoui: Charged with conspiracy over 11 September attacks
Commentators have suggested he may have used some of these excursions to test the security arrangements on various airlines, before boarding American Airlines flight 63 from Paris to Miami on 22 December 2001.

He was overpowered by passengers and crew on the flight after trying to set light to a fuse connected to the explosives.

It has also been reported that a computer allegedly used by al-Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan contained files with details of a "scouting" trip Reid is believed to have carried out to identify targets to attack.

The computer files describe an operative known as Brother Abdul Ra'uff who travelled to the same countries Reid is believed to have spent time in.

Like Reid, the operative travelled on a British passport and was closely questioned by Israeli security.

As a result of the files the United States Government laid new charges against Mr Reid, including attempted murder.


2 posted on 05/06/2007 1:44:17 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: HAL9000

An Air Jordan leaves a bigger signature than Adidas.


3 posted on 05/06/2007 1:49:45 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: HAL9000

Well, that FBI video is impressive. I really didn’t know or realize that the explosion would be that big. It’s actually *big* — quite big. And it doesn’t take that much to bring down a plane. This “shoe bomb” looks like it is about 100 times more than it would take at a minimum to take down a plane.

That’s another video I’ve grabbed and is going to be on my iPod... :-)


4 posted on 05/06/2007 1:51:14 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: CarrotAndStick

Who is Richard Reid?
 

Richard Reid

Reid looks like the Muslim version of white trash. Wonder if he owns a pit.

5 posted on 05/06/2007 1:52:13 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: HAL9000

GOOD LORD, that’s a big explosion! I had no idea it would be that big!


6 posted on 05/06/2007 2:01:29 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: streetpreacher

“Reid looks like the Muslim version of white trash.”

Just what is the absolute definition of “white trash”?

Not your personal choice, but the actual definition that we can all understand.

My personal definition includes people that use racist terms like “white trash”


7 posted on 05/06/2007 2:02:16 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: streetpreacher

These thugs are converting in/after prison. This is not an isolated phenomenon, and has been noticed world-over. Prisons should be better monitored for Islamic activity, IMO.


8 posted on 05/06/2007 2:02:45 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: streetpreacher

I don’t understand why he’s still being allowed to eat, sleep, wake, sleep, breath ... a dog with rabies is put down to protect the citizens.


9 posted on 05/06/2007 2:06:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: HAL9000

As far as the video goes it looks like the first portion of the video is an actual shoe bomb going off. The second portion of the video on the aircraft looks like tests from years ago. The explosive force just has a little too much punch when compared to the shoe being detonated at the beginning of the video.
Either way I would not want to be sitting near a dirt bag with Jihadi athletic shoes on!


10 posted on 05/06/2007 2:15:52 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: streetpreacher
One way or another, all muslims look like trash to me!


11 posted on 05/06/2007 2:16:26 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: missnry
The explosive force just has a little too much punch when compared to the shoe being detonated at the beginning of the video.

According to the article, the explosive was modeled after Reid's device, and the cabin of the aircraft is pressurized. My impression is that the pressurization acts to intensify the force of the explosion.

12 posted on 05/06/2007 2:25:25 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Pontiac

Bump


13 posted on 05/06/2007 2:28:54 AM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: HAL9000

I’ll add some speculation on the cabin pressurization - perhaps it was increased to simulate the pressure difference that would actually occur in-flight, since it isn’t practical to conduct this sort of test at high altitude.


14 posted on 05/06/2007 2:33:23 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

There is no technological solution to this; the solution has to arise from hardened attitudes. When somebody does one of these suicide attacks, the world needs to go after his body, and his family. Whatever is left of his body needs to be publically ground up with the body of a pig, and every member of his immediate family needs to be killed and THEIR bodies ground up with pigs. And then a pig with his name tatooed on it should be dropped straight into that big green colosseum in Mecca from 30,000 feet so the whole slammite world could watch it splatter there and KNOW who has caused that to happen.


15 posted on 05/06/2007 3:07:18 AM PDT by rickdylan
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To: HAL9000
if the attack by Brit Richard Reid on American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami in 2001 had succeeded, all 197 on board would have died.

What the video doesn't show is how this terrorist attack would have somehow been blamed on something mechanical ... anything but a terrorist attack.

16 posted on 05/06/2007 3:09:24 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: HAL9000

That theory was busted on MythBusters if memory serves..


17 posted on 05/06/2007 3:14:55 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: HAL9000

Oh, swell. Now the terrorists know just how successful they’d be if they deployed another Richard Reid.


18 posted on 05/06/2007 3:21:16 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: streetpreacher

There’s only one problem calling this moose limb “white trash”. He’s not white. He is the result of a black daddy and possibly white mama. A half breed...


19 posted on 05/06/2007 3:41:16 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: D-fendr
That theory was busted on MythBusters if memory serves..

I didn't see the show, but apparently Episode 10 debunked a myth about explosive decompression caused by a bullet fired through the window of an aircraft...




Did they consider the potential effects of a bomb?

I'm also reminded of Aloha Airlines Flight 243 in 1988, where one crew member was lost due to decompression -


20 posted on 05/06/2007 3:53:53 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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