Posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl
WASHINGTON -- New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani urged President Clinton Tuesday to free convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, a move that could boost Jewish support for the Republican's prospective Senate campaign -- and complicate a possible run in 2000 by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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Regarding Pollard, Giuliani said the Israeli deserves presidential clemency because the life sentence for espionage given him in 1987 goes "way beyond" sentences given in the past to American citizens convicted of spying for a U.S. ally.
Pollard, a former civilian U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, has already served a longer prison term than enemy spies who are routinely traded by their governments, according to Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor and associate attorney general in the Justice Department.
"It seems to me that there was an appropriate basis on which the President could exercise his discretion and cut that particular sentence," Giuliani said, adding that Pollard has "served much more than anyone else convicted of the same thing."
Giuliani stressed that he was restating a position that he had taken on the Pollard case "a couple of years ago" rather than announcing a new position.
The Clinton administration continues to review clemency for Pollard following repeated requests by the Israeli government. ...
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Giuliani deflected questions about whether he would endorse Texas Gov. George W. Bush as the Republican presidential nominee. The Associated Press quoted a top New York GOP official as saying the mayor could make such an announcement on Thursday.
FYI, from the “tough on crime”, “national security” candidate.
Rudy....”The open borders/national security candidate”
The facts keep rolling in, exposing Rooty for his liberal politics. Rooty takes another hit, knocked down another notch. This is great stuff.
Releasing a traitor to get votes. Now there’s an admirable quality. Thanks calcowgirl!
Great find!
BTW!
I’ve been trying to connect Rudy with Mauro Giuliani who 1819 left Vienna, mainly for financial reasons: his property and bank accounts were confiscated to pay his debtors.
This could be another smoking gun exposing the Giuliani family (if this is one of his ancestors) to lack of knowledge when it comes to finances.
Mauro Giuliani appears to have had an illegitimate daughter named Maria.
Anybody got more info on this stuff?
LOL. Michael Milken served a whole 18 months of his 10 year sentence, and Rudy thinks he served his time?
And according to this, Rudy wasn’t just calling for Clemency for Pollard, but a PARDON!
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/2001/012201a.htm
Giuliani said he was “shocked” that Clinton was not merciful to felons who truly turned their lives around, such as disgraced Wall Street wizard Michael Milken, or Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard.
“Michael Milken has paid his price,” Giuliani said. “Unlike Marc Rich, he actually went to jail, actually paid his dues to society.”
The junk bond king was one of the high-profile convictions Giuliani won as federal prosecutor. After serving 22 months of a 10-year sentence, Milken became a philanthropist who crusaded for a cure for prostate cancer and counseled the mayor on his own bout with the disease.
As for Pollard, Giuliani said he is “probably serving the longest sentence any spy has ever served” and deserved a pardon.
Giuliani also joined cop groups in blasting Clinton for pardoning Susan Rosenberg, who was linked to - but never charged with - a 1981 Brink’s armored car robbery that left two police officers dead in Nyack, Rockland County.
Rosenberg enjoyed her first day of freedom yesterday after being sprung from the federal prison in Danbury, Conn., on Saturday. She could not be located for comment.
Among the others getting pardons were Clinton’s half-brother, Roger, and Clinton’s Whitewater business partner Susan McDougal. Giuliani’s friend William Fugazy, a former limousine mogul, also received a pardon from Clinton.
“Again, unlike the Marc Rich case, Bill Fugazy pled guilty, was sentenced, paid his price,” the mayor said, adding that Fugazy “may be one of the most charitable people in the City of New York.”
1819???? You cannot be serious.
He left in 1819 for financial reasons and his property and bank accounts were confiscated to pay his debtors! Then he goes out and has a daughter and wasnt even married.
Tearing up the Saudi check, tossing Arafat out of the concert, urging Clinton to release Pollard----hey, every little bit helps when you're running for president. Read on.
EXCERPT April 21, 2007 -- A group of Israelis has launched a grass-roots effort to get people living in the Jewish state who are eligible to vote in the United States to line up behind Rudy Giuliani, it was reported yesterday. The group, Giuliani Supporters in Israel, was launched by Mordechai Twersky, a onetime candidate for state Assembly in The Bronx ...... "I did this as a private personal initiative, as a proud American and Israeli citizen..." Twersky told the NY Post. He said the Giuliani campaign hadn't set up his group, but that he's been in contact with Team Giuliani......Giuliani has historically been popular with Jewish voters, and took a hard pro-Israel line when he was in office........ In some past elections, planeloads of Israelis with American citizenship have flown to the United States to vote.
SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/seven/04212007/news/nationalnews/giuliani_bandwagon_branches_out_to_israel_nationalnews_maggie_haberman.htm
ROFLOL!
You are THAT desperate to dig up dirt on Giuliani? This is hilarious!
I just did a search and I think Hunter should really publically call Rudy on the carpet for this
This is my thoughts on Rudy: Right after 911 he had these people on the streets removed by ground zero who were selling 911 tee shirts, 911 hats, 911 posters, etc etc. Disgusting opportunistic pigs he said. What he called those people, that`s how I see this RINO today. If this idiot uses 911 anymore than he has to enrich and promote himself, I`m going to puke. The only thing he ever did during 911 was not leave the city. If that makes him “Amercias Mayor” then what does that make Ray Nagin?
Thanks for the ping. Nice find.
Giuliani proves once again he’s “tough on crime”, and THE “national security” candidate (gag, heave, spew).
Kerik hogging FBI files is a distinct possibility.
Interesting bait that you're throwing out...
Your contention is what, exactly?
LOL!
“On 9/11 I announce as the 9/11 candidate. I would not even be here on 9/11 if 9/11 had not happened.
I own 9/11. 9/11 is my lucky number.
Even my dog is named 9/11. And my wife has 9/11 tattoed on her thigh.
I get up at 911 AM everyday and retire at 911 PM.
I only buy cars that get 9 to 11 miles to the gallon.
9/11 is the lottery number I play everyday.
I live on 911 Ninth Street at the corner of 11th Avenue.
I’m buying the 7/11 store chain and renaming it 9/11. 9/11 will be forever embedded in the memory of 9/11
post-America.
I shall make 9/11 a national holiday....that’s why I’m running.”
Stormfront is two doors down on the right.
Dang! We need to get rid of dual citizenship, NOW!
And all elected politicians, State and Fed, should hold citizenship in only ONE country (yeah, Arnie—that’s YOU, too).
Thanks for that link... I missed it but now see it was posted at FR:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821141/posts
GIULIANI BANDWAGON BRANCHES OUT TO ISRAEL
" Oh, please, let me sound conservative. Who knew I'd need those
'dumb pro-life Christian conservatives' to make a primary showing?
They're killing me on FR just b/c I had three wives, several mistresses,
was honored by NARAL, donated to Planned Parenthood, and marched
for gay rights under the NAMBLA banner."
Why?
You’re not implying I made this up, are you?
Check it out at your public library—or buy a lexis/nexis account.
The Times Union doesn’t archive their articles online prior to 2005.
Here’s the full citation for your further research:
Giuliani urges Clinton to release Israeli spy; [THREE STAR Edition]
STEWART M. POWELL Times Union Washington bureau. Times Union. Albany, N.Y.: Sep 29, 1999. pg. A.1
So sorry, cal. My error.
I was remiss in not posting the FR link.
Thanks for posting it.
No problem. :-)
I would have no reason to imply that. I saw the story from other sources just before you posted it.
Is there a reason to doubt this about Rudy? Forgive me, I just dont understand how you could have come to such a conclusion. Maybe you accidentally posted your reply to me instead of whoever implied that.
BTTT
Off topic a little bit, but has anything been posted about Giuliani flip-flopping on the Terri Schiavo case during the debate?
Watta sweetheart-——grin.
The link in your post #15.
What were you trying to say then?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828781/posts
Giuliani flips on Schiavo case
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 5, 2007 | By ADAM C. SMITH
Posted on 05/05/2007 3:06:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Yeah-—I did see a reference to that on FR. If I had known you’d be asking, I would have taken notes (grin).
Nothing yet. I did come up with Ed Koch calling Rudy a "nasty man" in a google search. That's about it.
Damn, this girl’s good, eh, garv?
Links and all. Wow.
Bumping up so all can see just how tough Rudi is on criminals!
post 15:
Google Search results:
Your search - “Duncan hunter URGES CLINTON TO RELEASE ISRAELI SPY in 1999” - did not match any documents.
(It means Duncan Hunter could be the one to call Rudy out on this.)
I wanted to make sure Hunter was clean before I made the suggestion. I wasnt born yesterday.
Thanks, that was quick. I saw a replay of the debate this morning and realized that he had flipped. Shocking, not.
ROTFLMBO----now that's funny.
Stirring up a little dust, eh? You might want to start making some sense pretty soon or else some would peg you as a disrupter.
BTW, Ed Koch wrote a whole book on Rudy. The title: "Nasty Man." :-)
ROFL!
rofl
Man, you are such an asset to FR.
Cal did good posting this thread---to showoff tsowellfan's many talents.
You know, that comment went right by me the first time.
Thanks you two.
Thanks, Liz!
Soon we will see Mcain and Giuliani beat each other down and Fred Thompson will come in through the dust
This Pollard article and anything else on the “Nasty Man” also belong in FR’s Rudy Giuliani Truth File, as follows.
Posted on 04/25/2007 by Jim Robinson
The Rudy Giuliani Truth File in his own words and deeds - quotes, speeches, transcripts, clips, reports........This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds. Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, that you can find re:
NYC budgets,
NYC spending,
political appointments,
gun grabs,
connections to the gun control lobby,
lawsuits against gun manufacturers,
the truth about crime reduction in NYC,
private property grabs,
asset forfeitures,
abuses of office,
individual rights trampling,
constitution trampling,
violations of public trust,
violations of the rule of law,
national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911,
corruption, graft, bribes, favors,
union dealings, mob dealings,
business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts,
rainmaking for his business partners,
connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani’s government offices especially if he becomes president,
war profiteering,
his personal and business finances,
his train wreck of a private life and lack of character,
lack of qualifications for high office,
illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby,
support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies,
NARAL connections,
participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold,
connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies,
etc, etc, etc,
The Rudy Giuliani Truth File http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1823139/posts?page=51
“...Israel has proven itself to be a second-rate ally and no friend of America.”
This much is DEFINATELY a lie. Israel also spies FOR US, and we share intel. Always have. Spies are spies, and though I am a Zionist and a Jew I do not believe Pollard should be freed. That said, it is important to remember that nearly all countries spy on each other - ally and foe alike. Even countries like Estonia and Belgium spy on us, and we them! It’s part of the endless cat-and-mouse game of secret intel gathering and backroom diplomacy.
By the way, I myself have no military or government job and have no clearance. I simply read voraciously, and I know my history.
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