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The Big Deal About Raw Milk
The Eagle Times ^ | 05/07/07 | Sue Bingaman

Posted on 05/07/2007 10:08:51 AM PDT by TheBethsterNH

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To: Cicero
"There are too many ways for infection to sneak in, and in most cases the supply chain is too long for the milk to be really fresh by the time it reaches the supermarket."

And fire engines are rushing, so they are red too...

You appear to lack understanding of the raw milk industry. The biggest raw daries are actually the most dependable. It's the climate in the area of the dairy that makes the difference; a cool, marine climate is best for milk production, but the run-of-the- mill commercial dairies prefer the mega-hot California central valley, because they can get more production. Bad choice!

21 posted on 05/07/2007 3:27:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: TheBethsterNH

I wonder if this Dr. supports irradiated milk, I’m guessing not. In any case, adult should seldom drink whole milk, too fatty. Skimmed or 1% has all the nutrients of whole without the fat and few calories.


22 posted on 05/07/2007 4:54:18 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: jordan8

adultS should seldom . . . without the fat and fewER calories.


23 posted on 05/07/2007 4:55:49 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: jordan8
"Skimmed or 1% has all the nutrients of whole without the fat and few calories."

Wrong!

Skimmed is the worst you can drink. God did it right, man does it wrong.

Skimmed has all the lactose which is the detrimental part of the milk. Beta-lactose has the highest glycemic index of all sugars, and should be avoided as much as possible. Never drink anything but whole milk if you must drink any. Fat is our normal and proper source of energy, and provides protection to the brain, eyes, and nervous system. Green grass fed milk fat is higher in omega three oil than any vegetable oil.

24 posted on 05/07/2007 6:39:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Lil'freeper

Good article. Thanks for the ping.


25 posted on 05/07/2007 10:36:42 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Colorado Buckeye
Green grass fed milk fat is higher in omega three oil than any vegetable oil.

Great point about the omega-3 fat concentration; but how about omega-6s and in particular conjugated linoleic acid (CLA)? I know that muscle bound fat in grass cattle is much richer in CLA than fat from corn cattle. Does this also apply to milk fat from grass fed cows? Does milk fat from grass fed cows contain more CLA than milk fat from grain fed cows?

26 posted on 05/07/2007 10:46:29 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Misdirection play. My last post was supposed to be directed to you.


27 posted on 05/07/2007 10:47:46 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: TheBethsterNH
I was listening to a report about folks in Florida who illegally obtain raw milk for their families. They pay $13 per gallon.

YIKES!

Back in the late 70’s, my family banded together with two other families and we would alternate driving 15 miles out of town to a dairy to buy raw milk. It had nothing to do with health ... the dairy farmers would let you draw your own out of their holding tank for about half the price charged at the grocery store.

One of the “scare” lines from the report was that two (2) people died last year from diseases contracted through unprocessed dairy. There oughta be a law!

28 posted on 05/07/2007 11:07:39 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (we've always been rebellious.)
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To: Ditter

Suzie the cow. I’ll bet she was like part of the family.

Question: Does a cow need a calf in order to continue giving milk, or does she give milk as long as you keep milking her? Is it the milking process that keeps her giving milk? Will she “dry up” without a calf and without being milked?


29 posted on 05/07/2007 11:20:11 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Colorado Buckeye

I recall reading somewhere that grass-fed has more CLA than grain-fed, and that the CLA varies seasonally based on the quality of the grass. But I couldn’t give you a source for that. :(


30 posted on 05/08/2007 3:07:03 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: sharkhawk
Any good 2nd or 3rd world nation still has "normal" milk. Much better...but it can be an acquired taste if you were raised on American supermarket "non-food".

Kinda like venison. Once you've acquired the tase for the wild venison, most beef feels , looks and tastes gross!

31 posted on 05/08/2007 3:22:22 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Yardstick

I remember Suzie having a calf or calves but I am not sure how often. Yes she was very gentle and never kicked anyone.


32 posted on 05/08/2007 5:34:54 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Yardstick
The important thing to know about raw milk (maybe you already know it) is the cow must be healthy and disease free. A diseased cow can pass along TB, brucellosis and other things if she has them. Apparently Suzie was healthy, I guess dad had her checked.
33 posted on 05/08/2007 6:09:55 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Stegall Tx
One of the “scare” lines from the report was that two (2) people died last year from diseases contracted through unprocessed dairy. There oughta be a law!

Presuming you mean a "law" against "scare lines" based on unsubstanciated claims. Nowadays raw grassfed milk direct from a farmer on the west coast goes for between 6 and 8 dollars a gallon. People would pay more but we farmers would feel bad.

34 posted on 05/08/2007 7:56:22 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Colorado Buckeye
"but how about omega-6s"

Irrelevant. - We all get too much omega 6 and there is little we can do but stop eating anything from the grocery stores. Eating omega 9 rich nuts will help, because the 3's and 9's do prevent some of the takeup of 6's.

"I know that muscle bound fat in grass cattle is much richer in CLA than fat from corn cattle. Does this also apply to milk fat from grass fed cows?"

Definately.

"Does milk fat from grass fed cows contain more CLA than milk fat from grain fed cows?"

Yes, grain fed cattle provide almost nothing of value in our diet. All that can be said is that it is better for the cattle to eat the grain than for us to eat it.

35 posted on 05/08/2007 8:48:10 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Stegall Tx

Four bucks per quart is about the going rate for quality milk.


36 posted on 05/08/2007 8:50:22 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Poincare
What is the actual production cost for a gallon of milk? Something must be happening (a new subsidy or something) because new dairies are springing up in West Texas left and right.
37 posted on 05/08/2007 9:51:10 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (we've always been cheap, too.)
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To: Stegall Tx
What is the actual production cost for a gallon of milk?

A seasonal grass based dairy will have low operating costs, and a feedlot dairy will pay for feed and pay to have manure removed.

Something must be happening (a new subsidy or something) because new dairies are springing up in West Texas left and right.

Are they financed by international money and run by Dutch? I wonder if they are planning on feeding spent distillers's grain from gasahol production? Doesn't sound good.

38 posted on 05/09/2007 9:21:07 AM PDT by Poincare
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