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British navy unveils new submarine
AP via Seattle PI ^ | 05/08/07 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 05/08/2007 3:32:56 PM PDT by Enchante

The Royal Navy showed off its largest and most powerful attack submarine Tuesday, a month before the over-budget, overdue vessel is to be launched.

Military officials say the HMS Astute will be able to circumnavigate the planet without surfacing, and its nuclear reactor is designed to last for the vessel's 25-year operational life, meaning it will never need to be refueled.

The Astute is due to be launched from the BAE Systems Inc. shipyard in Barrow-in-Furness, northwest England, on June 8 and to enter service in January 2009.

The sub is to be followed by two more Astute-class submarines, Ambush and Artful. Together the navy estimates they will cost about $7.2 billion, more than $2 billion over the original estimate.

The project is also years behind schedule. The HMS Astute originally was due to enter service in June 2005, but in 2002 the government said the date had been pushed back to 2006. In 2005, the Ministry of Defense said it would enter service by 2009.

Nearly 40,000 acoustic tiles, designed to mask the submarine's sonar signature, have still to be attached to the ship's 318-foot hull, which is 30 percent longer than that of the submarines now in use.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: defense; navy; submarines; uk
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1 posted on 05/08/2007 3:33:00 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

At $2.4 billion each they’re coming in more expensive than our Virginia-class subs which (last I saw) are around $2 billion each?? Of course, costs per unit soar when all the R&D has to be divided only among 3-4 units produced. Couldn’t the US and UK find a way to collaborate on some such projects, or are the classified issues and defense industry priorities just too hard to resolve?? We did work together on the Trident missile program, yes?


2 posted on 05/08/2007 3:35:21 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante

I’d be interested to know how this stacks up to US attack subs, such as Los Angeles Class.


3 posted on 05/08/2007 3:36:45 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Enchante; Submariner; cva66snipe
Nearly 40,000 acoustic tiles, designed to mask the submarine's sonar signature, have still to be attached to the ship's 318-foot hull, which is 30 percent longer than that of the submarines now in use.

Sounds (?) like a lot of dead weight...

4 posted on 05/08/2007 3:40:23 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Enchante
TTIUWP


5 posted on 05/08/2007 3:44:52 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Wiseghy

Yes, and if anyone can make comparisons with the latest USN attack boats, the Virginia class, that would be of great interest here too. Here’s something on the Virginia class:

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/nssn/

I think we ended up only building 3 of the Seawolf class due to costs?? Is the Virginia class a reduced version of the Seawolf, or something much different?


6 posted on 05/08/2007 3:46:10 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante

At least the Britts can build one and not blow themselves up with it.
Now as for the russians?


7 posted on 05/08/2007 3:47:11 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: martin_fierro
Looks like they have hugh design problems with holes in the hull.
8 posted on 05/08/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: steveo
Those are windows, smarta$$.
9 posted on 05/08/2007 3:52:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: steveo

Nah, those are the screen doors.


10 posted on 05/08/2007 3:54:13 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Defeatocrat party left me.)
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To: steveo

LMAO


11 posted on 05/08/2007 4:02:36 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: Enchante

Here's a photo of it firing a torpedo during tests in the Antarctic

12 posted on 05/08/2007 4:07:08 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Enchante

If they don’t work, they could always wait for a new leftwing government in Canada, and sell them to that country.


13 posted on 05/08/2007 4:07:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Enchante

Ordered: March 1997
Builder: BAE Systems Marine
Laid down: January 2001
Launched: 8 June 2007 (planned)
Commissioned: 2009 (planned)
Status: Under construction
General Characteristics
Displacement: 7800 tonnes submerged
Length: 97 m (323 ft)
Beam: 11.3 m (37 ft)
Draught: 10 m (33 ft)
Propulsion: Rolls-Royce PWR2 reactor (with full submarine life core), MAN (Paxman) 1900 kilowatt diesel generator
Speed: 29 knots (54 km/h) submerged
Range: circumnavigation 40 times without refuelling
Complement: 98 officers and men normally, capacity of 109
Sensors and processing systems: Thales Underwater Systems Sonar 2076, Atlas Hydrographic DESO 25 depth-finding echosounder, Two Thales Optronics CM010 periscopes, Raytheon Systems Ltd Successor IFF system
Armament: six 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes, 38 Spearfish torpedoes, UGM-84 Harpoon and Tomahawk Block III cruise missiles, naval mines


14 posted on 05/08/2007 4:09:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: steveo

Series too..!!


15 posted on 05/08/2007 4:10:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Paul Ross
Nearly 40,000 acoustic tiles, designed to mask the submarine's sonar signature, have still to be attached to the ship's 318-foot hull, which is 30 percent longer than that of the submarines now in use.

Sounds (?) like a lot of dead weight...



I bet it's dead weight that any submariner is more than happy to drag along
16 posted on 05/08/2007 4:10:32 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Enchante

The British are officially scraping the bottom of the barrel to get adjective names for ships.

Well, actually, they scraped it during the 1940’s when the first HMS Astute came into service.


17 posted on 05/08/2007 4:44:56 PM PDT by Dan Middleton (Radio...Free...Mars)
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To: theDentist

LoL!


18 posted on 05/08/2007 4:52:36 PM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: SLB; Jeff Head

fyi


19 posted on 05/08/2007 4:56:39 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Sir, I protest! I am not a merry man! - Lt. Worf)
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To: Enchante
Much different. It’s designed to be not only stealthy, but to be able to carry a lot of cruise missiles in switch out pods for fast reloading. The Virginia subs are designed to make sure the Chinese Navy doesn’t have to spend money on deep water ships, because they’ll be sunk in harbor.
20 posted on 05/08/2007 7:32:40 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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