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To: CottShop

Gould did important work in refining evolutionary theory and there are clearly areas of disagreement. And it a good idea to discuss those issues. That’s different than ordering teachers to teach ID before ID is shown to be a viable scientific theory.


285 posted on 05/14/2007 11:20:46 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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I agree that it’s important to discuss tyhe hypothesis and scientists personal opinions about what the evidence might point to, knowledge is never a bad thing, however, I also think that the whole story needs be told, not the one sided bias being foisted with threats of suppression and suits to coutner science and evidences that expose the problems with common descent. As the quote I posted suggested,

entomologist W.R. Thompson:

“This situation where scientific men rally to the defense of a doctrine they are unable to defend scientifically, much less demonstrate with scientific rigor, attempting to maintain its credibility with the public by the suppression of criticism and the elimination of difficulties, is abnormal and undesirable in science.”


290 posted on 05/14/2007 11:38:04 AM PDT by CottShop
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To: gondramB

[That’s different than ordering teachers to teach ID before ID is shown to be a viable scientific theory.]

A little confused here, if it’s a good idea to teach different lines of evolution hypothesis in an attempt to close some serious gaps in the old model, then what makes the old model more ‘viable’ than the idea that there is design in nature? Or in showing that things are irreducibly complex and don’t really support the idea of NEW information through gradual accumulation of small mutatiions? It would seem to me that exploring all angles in an unproven hypothesis would only serve to either strengthen the old model, or suggest that other lines should be investigated? Validity comes from including all evidences, not suppressing some ideas that don’t jive with an old model. If ID simply said’ God done it, and that’s all anyone need know’ then you’d of course have a valid point, however, that’s not what ID is about. ID presents scientific evidence that, based on educated opinion, points to design. Evolution presents scientific evidence, that based on educated opinion, seems to point to common descent. Both are valid opinions based on scientific evidences..


291 posted on 05/14/2007 11:56:48 AM PDT by CottShop
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