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To: CottShop

BTW, from another thread here is the kind of biological predictions I am told evolution makes that have been confirmed.

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Some predictions (I’m just repeating what I have read elsewhere - I claim no great knowledge of biology). And I’m only gonna cite simple ones I can understand - there are apparently very complex predictions.

1. There are two types of whales baleen and teeth. Prediction: there must be a whale with both teeth and baleen.

2. Darwin found no Precambrian fossils. He said evolutionary theory required there to be such fossils.

3. Fossils should be found in series that reflect evolution. So should DNA.

4. Evolution predicts that fossils from different eras will never be found together - the example I was given was that you would “never find fossils of trilobites with fossils of dinosaurs”

Apparently there are all kinds of complex DNA predictions and evolutionary applications to bacteria and viruses but we’d need somebody who knows much, much more than I to have that discussion.<<


297 posted on 05/14/2007 1:05:49 PM PDT by gondramB (No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
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To: gondramB

Well ID predicted that what was commonly thought to be junk DNA would turn out to be useful- it has upon more careful study.

They predicted that ‘vestigial organs’ would turn out to have functional importances- they did upon furhter careful annalysis.

They predicted that species could not evolve beyond their species specific limits- They also predicted that accumulations of mutations would not move a species beyond it’s own KIND- exhaustive testing mimicking supposedly millions of years throguh massive manipulation of causes that bring about mutations has proven this to be true.

They predicted that the fossil records would show sudden emergence of many completed life forms- it did

Here’s more from a site that talks about htese predictions and many others:

http://www.researchintelligentdesign.org/wiki/Predictions_of_Intelligent_Design

And you’re right, it does take faith, however, one doesn’t have to go on complete blindness of scientific facts- there is much in both creation science and ID to suggest that there is indeed design in nature- and if so, then it’s a very high probability that a designer was behind the process.


299 posted on 05/14/2007 7:41:00 PM PDT by CottShop
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To: gondramB

Here’s more:

“Does intelligent design make predictions? Is it testable?

The Short Answer: Yes. Intelligent design theory predicts: 1) that we will find specified complexity in biology. One special easily detectable form of specified complexity is irreducible complexity. We can test design by trying to reverse engineer biological structures to determine if there is an “irreducible core.” Intelligent design also makes other predictions, such as 2) rapid appearance of complexity in the fossil record, 3) re-usage of similar parts in different organisms, and 4) function for biological structures. Each of these predictions may be tested—and have been confirmed through testing”

http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1156


300 posted on 05/14/2007 7:44:53 PM PDT by CottShop
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To: gondramB

There are more predictions which are comming true through careful annalysis such as the following:

1: The deeper we look, the more complex and finely tuned will be the results (We are just discovering through molecular biology just how true this is)

2:Life began complex and has remained so. (We’re seeing that even the simplest of life forms (which the evolutionist would argue are the beginnings of evolution) exhibit complexities beyond what we once thought possible. They aint so imple after all, and are again irreducibly compelx)

3: ID predicted that chemical manipulation could not create all the basic building blocks needed for life to even begin to evolve- (That’s exactly what we find- While it’s true that some amino acids were produced from chemicals in a highly controlled lab, there were massive natural obstacles that simply could not be overcome such as isolating left hand amino acids from the right hand ones which would have destroyed the correct amino acids right off the bat- and, controlling the destructive forces of the energy needed to produce those amino acids. In nature, this control of energy could not happen and thus what was created would certainly have been destroyed.)

4: ID predicted there would be a record of fast recovery of species from a catyclysmic event- that is exactly what we see in the fossil records- Evoltuion requires a slow gradual process that should be replete with many small transitional evidences, yet we rarely find these small transition, and the ones that are found are open to much fierce debate and differing views within the secular science realm.


301 posted on 05/14/2007 8:08:15 PM PDT by CottShop
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