[You admit speciation, but deny new species? Speciation IS new species! I don’t understand this position]
I’m sorry- I should have been more precise- good catch. I should have stated that speciation doesn’t result in new KINDS- they are still the same species. a finch will always be a finch and never become a fly (or whatever you wish to suggest) as I metioned, there often is wildly differing variability within KINDS (I said species, but should have said KINDS), yet KINDS will remain KINDS, and we have ample proofs of KINDS varying to a great degree- even to the point of speciation- what we do NOT have however are KINDS becoming other KINDS through all these suppsoed accumulations of small mutations- the evidence simply is not there to support this hypothesis- to suggest it happens is to leave the realm of knowns and enter the realm of assumptions. Created kinds in no way denies speciation. How do you suggest it does? Speciation does nothign to undermine the created kind hypothesis.
[You want to believe that scientists only concluded that the earth is old because it “had to be” because of evolution. But your belief is wrong. It isn’t merely wrong as a matter of opinion; it is wrong as a FACT OF HISTORY.]
Symantics- As you point out folks beleivedcin old age BEFORE- meaning even before they had all these so called ‘accurate dating methods’ that we have today- so of course they HAD to rely on priori beliefs as to how old the THOUGHT the earth was. And, even though we have different measuring methods today, we still MUST go with a priori beleif of wicked old age due to the fact that the mthods have nothign with which to calibrate the methods with. The priori beleif comes into play, and simply throws out any dates given that don’t support that priori belief.
[Many of these geologists had previously attempted to construct or apply schemes that accommodated a global flood and a young earth, or at least a young age and biblical time scale for post flood deposits. They would have been perfectly happy for the evidence to have accommodated such efforts. It did not.]
Actually some indeed did support it, however, priori beleifs denied the evidences. There are evidences all over the world that suggest a global catastrophy happened, yet those who beleiuve in old age earth deny it or explain them away with more assumptions.
Again, that just not historically true. Do you have any idea of how science works? Have you ever read a research article, attended a scientific convention or seminar, etc?
For instance AFTER Darwin Lord Kelvin calculated an age for the earth (actually several different calculations, but they were all problematic) that was FAR too young for evolution, and even to young for conventional geology completely aside from evolution. Kelvin's calculations were based on the assumption that the earth had gradually cooled from a molten mass, using then new data about temperatures deep in the earth's crust.
Kelvin's calculations were flawed, of course, because it was then unknown that the decay of radioactive elements kept adding heat to the earth. Indeed before the existence of radioactivity was even known. So this was a puzzling and troubling result, which geologists (who, again, had been forced to conclude that the earth was old BEFORE, and DESPITE, and INDEPENDENT OF evolution on the basis of COMPELLING EVIDENCE not "assumptions") assumed would be explained somehow.
But they didn't just throw Kelvin's results out the window. They didn't deny them. They just said, basically, "well, there they are; it's a puzzle that will have to be worked out." Some geologists even tried to model speeded up geological process to imagine how the earth they observed might be only a few hundred thousand years old, but they didn't have much luck.
There are OFTEN such cross disciplinary conflicts in science. But your imagination as to how they are handled is completely divorced from all reality.