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To: JamesP81
The Forefathers disagree with you.

Please . . . the Forefathers could barely get over their own religious differences, and they were all mainline Protestants. It's obvious you have a rose-colored glasses view of history.

You keep on quoting Adams, but he was a Puritan---one of the last of a dying breed. Franklin was a total libertine, and Jefferson, I believe, was a Deist. I'm sure each would have problems with what the others felt was true "morality."

Like I wrote, the grand, sweeping themes are one thing: the Devil is in the details.

My point about the church's function being the moral voice in society's mind is only part of its job; the part that relates to society and the civil authority.

Well, that's certainly the "part" we're discussing in this thread, is it not? The part you claimed has a direct relationship with our government? For the purposes of this thread, I could care less about any other part a church plays in the life of its members. Let's stick to the subject at hand, shall we?

281 posted on 05/10/2007 10:10:32 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
It's obvious you have a rose-colored glasses view of history.

Laughable. In the extreme, in fact. The Forefathers wanted a religious influence in society, and wanted it to be a christian religious influence. They said so on a number of occasions. That's the simple fact of the matter.
294 posted on 05/10/2007 11:12:33 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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