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The terrorists next door
NY Daily News ^ | Wednesday, May 9th 2007

Posted on 05/09/2007 7:33:59 AM PDT by presidio9

On the face of things, these Jersey guys do look to have been serious conspirators - the very kind of homegrown jihadists that pose such a threat to America. These fellows had assault weapons. These fellows had a map of Fort Dix. And, we can divine from their tape-recorded plottings, they had very real intent to kill as many American troops as they could, Allah willing.

So once more we thank our lucky stars for the due diligence of law enforcement people, who, it is announced, have shut down an armed attack on U.S. soil. This could have been pretty bad.

My intent is to hit a heavy concentration of soldiers. ... I assure you that you can hit an American base very easily. ... You hit four, five or six Humvees and light the whole place up.

And it is, moreover, seen again how useful is the practice of saying something after seeing something. This case came down because an alert video store clerk notified the FBI when a customer brought in a tape for transfer to DVD and the clerk observed that the tape's contents were hair-raising. Here's a public hero.

That said, we can't afford to rely on random tipoffs that plots against the homeland are being hatched in some rathole. Store clerks are not the nation's first line of defense. And not every would-be wreaker of mayhem is so stupid as to let strangers see a video of himself shouting in Arabic at a Poconos firing range. There are more of these people out there - many, many more. This case is by no means an aberration.

A bookstore worker from Bay Ridge was convicted of plotting to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge. A martial arts expert from the Bronx pleaded guilty to conspiring to provide combat training and medical assistance to Al Qaeda. A plan to blow up New York landmarks was concocted in Brooklyn. A Queens man admitted building fertilizer bombs with four men who tried to blow up a London nightclub and shopping center. A Queens man who moved to Britain in 2003 is facing charges there of providing supplies to Al Qaeda recruits fighting in Afghanistan.

And, now, six men in custody in Jersey, three of them in the country illegally. Well, innocent till proven guilty. They'll have their day in court. Regardless, they stand as examples of a growing threat that demands the most aggressive intelligence-gathering by federal and local authorities, most importantly the NYPD.

"This is what law enforcement is supposed to do in the post-9/11 era," Jersey U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie (photo) said yesterday. "Stay one step ahead of those who are attempting to cause harm to innocent American citizens."


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
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1 posted on 05/09/2007 7:34:01 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

I worry about that tipster. These guys know where they brought that tape, and they will get that information to someone on their side eventually, who will then go looking for vengeance. I pray that this man and his family remains safe and unbothered. I would like to buy him a virtual beer.


2 posted on 05/09/2007 7:40:45 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: USMCWife6869
I would like to buy him a virtual beer.

It may suprise a lot of people here to realize that there's a good chance the tipster doesn't drink for religious reasons. The tipster that foiled the Herald Square bombing in NYC a couple of years ago was named Osama.

3 posted on 05/09/2007 7:44:01 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
“Allah willing.”

He's the glue that bonds terrorist/followers worldwide... saturated from Palestine to Indonesia and heavily sprinkled throughout Europe and North America. Allah has become... a pestilence.

4 posted on 05/09/2007 7:44:58 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: presidio9
three of them in the country illegally

Crossed the border illegally or on an expired student visa? But, no. Nothing to see here. Move along.

5 posted on 05/09/2007 7:48:39 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Crossed the border illegally or on an expired student visa?

The expired student visa. Terrorists are well educated and financed. Why walk into this country when you can fly?

6 posted on 05/09/2007 8:09:29 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
Do you think all this Islamic revenge toward Americans is going to dissipate over time?

Or, do you think the US is going to become an increasingly dangerous place to live?

7 posted on 05/09/2007 8:23:05 AM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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Couple of minutes ago on Fox News they said that the 3 illegal Al-Banians didn’t have any records of entry into the USA....

I wonder who smuggled’em in....???


8 posted on 05/09/2007 8:28:35 AM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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To: presidio9

Too bad we can’t just arbitrarily freedom fry these islamic murderers.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 8:33:13 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Or, do you think the US is going to become an increasingly dangerous place to live?

With our basically open society, I am sure we are in for the long haul. These attacks have been happening through the globe and since 911, but everything seems to be relatively quiet here. I still think that the reason is they are building resources and the jihadists are waiting to see how much more the RATS will cause such divisions in America. This Country is being torn apart within, instead of working together. Why start the internal attacks with the RATS doing much of the basic work for them. I do feel that some are getting impatient and are happy to move up the timetable. And to boot, they know even if they are caught, they will be placed in one of our country clubs, Koran, three meals a day, etc. etc.

10 posted on 05/09/2007 8:55:25 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: USMCWife6869

I pray that this man and his family remains safe and unbothered
I do too, many thanks & prayers for this person & their family. ~P~


11 posted on 05/09/2007 8:57:41 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: johnny7
"Allah willing.”

He's the glue that bonds terrorist/followers worldwide... saturated from Palestine to Indonesia and heavily sprinkled throughout Europe and North America. Allah has become... a pestilence.

Has become? "Allah"(Satan) was a "pestulance" from the very moment Muhammad uttered his name for the first time (Ar-Rahman) after Satan, disguised as an angel of light, tortured Mohammad while he was in a cave performing his pagan rock worshippng rituals.

12 posted on 05/09/2007 9:18:16 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: presidio9
Another example where the threats to our security are hatched in this country by illegal aliens and immigrants. Yet our government wants to give amnesty and reward them with citizenship.

For our security, we needs to deport illegal aliens, secure the borders, and drastically cut down on immigrants, especially from enemy nations.

We have to support the Border Patrol who do their job of protecting this country. Too many innocent agents have been framed by the likes of Johnny Sutton. At the same time the government rewards select drug dealers and other criminals.

13 posted on 05/09/2007 9:31:38 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: johnny7
I should have pointed out, that Mohammad changed the name of his god to "Allah" from "Ar-Rahman" after he slaughtered his own tribe, and took possesion of the Ka'aba, which was rock idol central, a pile of rocks around a watering hole.

"Allah" was the name of the black rock, (actually a hunk of meteorite) that the pagan Arabs worshipped, along with two other fragments which broke off of the black rock, Al-Uzza and Manat, which were daughters of "Allah"

"Allah" is not an Arabic word meaning god, it is a name only. The Arabic word for god is ", a clarification you will find repeated over 52 times in the Koran.

After Mohammad slaughtered his own tribe and familly, he took the name "Allah" for that of his own god,never using Ar-Rahman again after this period. In an attempt to pacify remaining tribesmen, he also retained the "Allah" rock, AND two daughters. The black rock is now imbedded in the side of the Ka'aba, which is "Allah's house" (which has undergone much renovation since it's humble beginnings a pile of unhewen rocks piled up without mortar, and a sheet for a roof to what it is today.

Muslims must make a journey at least once in their lifetime and do all the pagan rock worship rituals, and kiss the black rock, Mohammad kept all the pagan rituals (it was after all, how that pile of rocks made money in those days) lamely making excuses that they were the rituals of (non-existant) ancient muslims.

Al-Uzza and Manat, although now denied and erased from Islamic scripture, still exist and are secretly worshipped, they are imbedded in the minurettes of mosks nearby.

14 posted on 05/09/2007 9:41:11 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
The Arabic word for god is ", a

"Ilah

15 posted on 05/09/2007 9:43:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: lilylangtree
Too bad we can’t just arbitrarily freedom fry these islamic murderers.

One good thing about FDR - when German spies came ashore to harm our citizens, FDR had them executed, no questions asked, no liberal media back then howling.

16 posted on 05/09/2007 10:01:48 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: dj_animal_2000; presidio9
Couple of minutes ago on Fox News they said that the 3 illegal Al-Banians didn’t have any records of entry into the USA.... I wonder who smuggled’em in....???

Oh, these dudes are just some of Jorge's guests who only want to make a living for their families.

17 posted on 05/09/2007 10:10:41 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: USMCWife6869
“Store clerks are not the nation’s first line of defense.”

I think that they are (along with everyday folks like you and me). I wasn’t around, but it seems that WWII was very much brought down to the home front - with the sky watchers, black outs, rationing, and recycling.

I read somewhere once that the scrap metal drives where the wives would bring in an extra pot or pan, etc. were more for the “propaganda” effect rather than actually doing much good. And I think that it was “good” propaganda if true. Making people feel that they are part of the war effort, that they are contributing, and that they have a vested interest to win the war.

18 posted on 05/09/2007 10:31:06 AM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Oh, these dudes are just some of Jorge's guests who only want to make a living for their families.

T E M P O R A R Y • G U E S T • J I H A D I S T S

19 posted on 05/09/2007 10:46:23 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: All

Does anyone know if these are related to the Whabists in Kosovo?

It seems the networks are working overtime to cover up the fact they are Islamists from the Kosovo area.

(FNC was made the female dog of their Saudi investor who BRAGGED he forced FNC to change their description of Moslem Terrorists)

This is also important because you have a group of arab states pushin a UN resolution to create an independent (ethnic cleansed by blood) moslem kosovo state. THIS WEEK.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 10:49:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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