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To: jedward
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket. The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.

Besides, it’s time to get the abortion issue off the table, because abortions will continue no matter who wins in 2008.

I don’t like his donations to Planned Parenthood either, and I prefer Thompson, but Rudy is the only guy who can take on both the media and their darling candidate Hillary.

I want us to win and I can’t stand the thought of Hillary as President.

7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:20:45 PM PDT by detch
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

Baloney.

The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.

So who on the Republican ticket ever had the MSM on their side? Nixon? Reagan? Dole? Bush Sr? Jr? Or ever will have the MSM on their side?

8 posted on 05/09/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: detch

Who told you that crap and who taught you how to loose? Any good honest conservative can beat both of them.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 12:24:49 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: detch
Guiliani can't win the general election, no matter what hype you;re hearing. There's no way he holds enough of the "right" to stand a chance, and he's the one candidate Clinton's negatives wouldn't stand out so great against.

Even if by some miracle he would win, he'd have negative "coattails" due to the depressed conservative turnout, and would just be rubber-stamping the Democrat agenda anyway.

10 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:27 PM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompsn)
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To: detch

He is not the only one who can beat Hillary. He is not a conservative but is as liberal as any democrat. We do not need or want him anywhere near the White House.


11 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:38 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: detch

Not true. And I want Thompson to run too but he’d better SH&^ of get off the pot.


14 posted on 05/09/2007 12:26:28 PM PDT by unionblue83 (Note to Dems:"Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser." -Gen. Patton)
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

All Hail St. Rudi of York. Dragon (and baby and gun) Slayer! Knight of the Loyal Order of the Ruby Slipper and Protector of the Illegal Invader.

Vote for Rudi if you wish detch. As for me and mine, He's a non-candidate.
15 posted on 05/09/2007 12:27:45 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket. The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.

In my view, whether it's McCain or Thompson or Romney, a candidate who can beat the MSM supported and well financed Guiliani can beat Hillary. I don't think Guiliani supporters will stay home. I don't think abortion is a problem, since it went in the platform in 1980 Republicans have been in the White House 19 of 27 years. What am I missing?

16 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:00 PM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

Sorry, not so pessimistic about our other options, sure Rudy has the best media attention, but you are giving Clintoon/Osama too much credit.. Frankly, I think even McCain could beat them.. but we have several on our side who, once they get the airtime, will do some damage.. look at how Romney shined in the last debate and how everyone is buzzing over Fred.. the entire country is on pins and needles wanting someone to get behind..

17 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:12 PM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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To: detch
I want us to win

I don't want Rudy, or you, to win. I want a conservative to win. You and Rudy are the opposition as much as the MSM and Hillary.

19 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:38 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: detch

Rudy may be the one Republican candidate with more negatives and skeletons than Hillary.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 12:30:08 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!)
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To: detch

Pig-in-a-poke refers to a scam originating in the late middle ages, when meat was scarce, but apparently rats and cats were not.

a program that pretends to do, or does, something useful, but which contains code that does something else - this can range from printing silly messages on your screen to trashing your hard drive - it’s the network equivalent of a virus

A software entity that appears to do something normal but which, in fact, contains a trapdoor or attack program.

Any program designed to do things that the user of the program did not intend to do or that disguises its harmful intent.

A type of infestation that hides or disguises itself as a useful program yet is designed to cause damage at a later time.


25 posted on 05/09/2007 12:31:47 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: detch

If you think Rudy is the best we’ve got to offer, we deserve to lose.


26 posted on 05/09/2007 12:33:24 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: detch
The MSM is on their side

If the MSDRivebyM is on his side, that in itself tells me Rudy is no Conservative.

Rudy is a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

30 posted on 05/09/2007 12:34:58 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: detch
Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket.

What a bunch of crap. The only way to LOSE to Clinton or Obama is to divide and split the Republican Party with a liberal like Rudy. With a liberal like Rudy--you lose the passion, enthusiasm, energy, and volunteer efforts of the traditional base.

If you want to DIVIDE AND SPLIT the Party WIDE OPEN,,,

a liberal like JulieAnnie is JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB!!!

31 posted on 05/09/2007 12:35:50 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: detch

“”Rudy is the only candidate who can beat the Clinton/Obama ticket. The MSM is on their side and he’s the only candidate with the ability to take them on effectively.
Besides, it’s time to get the abortion issue off the table, because abortions will continue no matter who wins in 2008.

I don’t like his donations to Planned Parenthood either, and I prefer Thompson, but Rudy is the only guy who can take on both the media and their darling candidate Hillary.

I want us to win and I can’t stand the thought of Hillary as President.””..........

I agree.

Rudy is the only one who can rip new ones both in the dems white flag hindies and the MSM. He’s just getting started.


41 posted on 05/09/2007 12:46:55 PM PDT by tkathy (Those who appease always get more killed than those who stand up to barbarism)
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To: detch

Ditto! If Hillary or Obama wins, all I can say, is God help America.


43 posted on 05/09/2007 12:50:23 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: detch

Blah blah blah Rudy is the only one blah blah blah who can beat blah blah blah Hillary blah blah the president can’t do anything about abortion blah blah blah someone pull the string in my back so I can utter another stupid Rudy talking point bla blah blah...


45 posted on 05/09/2007 12:52:35 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: detch

Wouldn’t be much difference in a Rudy Giuliani presidency or a Hillary Clinton one. Both are pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien, anti-second amendment and pro-gay special rights leftists.


48 posted on 05/09/2007 12:53:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: detch
I want us to win...

Win what? Certainly not anything worthwhile. I want us to win. For real. There is a difference.

69 posted on 05/09/2007 1:07:01 PM PDT by BykrBayb (May the way of the hero lead to the triforce! Þ)
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To: detch

Far more is at stake than the Presidency. It’s up to the GOP to realize it or face the consequences.

If the GOP can do no better than the liberal abortionist, gungrabbing, queer-bot Giuliani, it deserves a very hard, arse-first fall.

You vote for Giuliani. You subtly tell Congress it’s okay to regulate your Second Amendment rights to defensive arms away.

Not me.

You vote for Giuliani. You subtly tell Congress it’s okay to require you embrace homosexual unions equal to your marriage vows, regardless of your religious convictions that they deem places you on a “hate” list.

Not me.

You vote for Giuliani. You subtly tell Congress it’s okay to allow a baby to be slaughtered so long as its head is still partially concealed and that you have no choice but to help fund those “procedures” because they believe it’s “constitutional”.

Not me.

And you vote for Giuliani. You subtly tell Congress it’s okay the government require you believe it is the all-powerful, final authority - not the people from whom that power comes and you must cede any of your rights upon its demand.

Definitely, not me.

Rejection of one rotten Apple decreases the likelihood the merchant would think of unloading the peck of bad ones on you.


73 posted on 05/09/2007 1:12:21 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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