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China's masses rise up and buy stocks
Asia Times ^ | May 9, 2007 | SUN WUKING

Posted on 05/09/2007 1:25:39 PM PDT by alnitak

HONG KONG - Mass movements are part of Chinese tradition. Chinese people tend to act as a group and, whenever conditions are ripe, they rush to join with someone or some group taking the lead. Hence a "mass movement" can be easily formed. In the 1960s and 1970s, there were the "all people becoming citizen-soldiers" movement and the Cultural Revolution launched by Mao Zedong. In the era of economic reform and opening up, "mass movements" appear to have become more spontaneous. In the 1980s, there was a time when "all people rushed to do commercial businesses". And now we are witnessing another mass movement: "all people speculating in stocks". Indeed, as the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock markets keep rising, more and more Chinese citizens join the army of speculators. On April 26, some 325,000 new investor accounts were opened on the single day, pushing the total number to 92.5 million. This means one out of every 14 mainland Chinese (including children and the aged) is now a player. This does not even include those who trade in shares through investment funds. Considering that 80% of the 1.3 billion Chinese are farmers, it may be safe to say that almost all urban adults are stock investors or speculators. A civil servant in Guangzhou, Wang, said 90% of the staff in his office bought and sold shares. "During the lunch break, all we talk about in our office is stocks. I have invested 20,000 yuan. With a big surge in the market, I can make more money on a single day than my monthly salary." A taxi driver in Shanghai said driving a cab has became his "part-time" job, as his "full-time" work is to "speculate in shares".

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bubble; china; shares; stocks
Let's see if I can post this story before my internet connection goes down *again* tonight...

"Irrational exuberance" anyone? Impossible to tell how much, if any, of this is journalistic exaggeration, but it sounds pretty scary...

BTW, when the auto-excerpt thing kicked in, it told me that I was using 1776 words, which I thought was kinda-neat!

1 posted on 05/09/2007 1:25:43 PM PDT by alnitak
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To: alnitak

Asia is growing, whether it’s real or hyped or a combination of both. You can make a lot of money in those stocks.


2 posted on 05/09/2007 1:31:10 PM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: alnitak

1.3 billion Chinese engaged in a “mass movement.”

That’s not something I want to think about.


3 posted on 05/09/2007 1:32:28 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: alnitak
Look at the P/E's of the china stocks.

If they are still low, it's not irrational exuberance...yet.

4 posted on 05/09/2007 1:32:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Brilliant
That’s not something I want to think about.

Well lemme tell you about WYPE, which is the Shanghai Stock Market trading symbol for a Chinese toilet paper manufacturer...

5 posted on 05/09/2007 2:16:55 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Well lemme tell you about WYPE, which is the Shanghai Stock Market trading symbol for a Chinese toilet paper manufacturer...

LOL. The sad truth, though, is that WYPE's not a possible ticker symbol, since Shanghai stocks are represented by several digit numbers.

6 posted on 05/09/2007 5:29:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: alnitak
The sentiment in China is that the Chinese government will keep the market afloat in order to avoid being embarrassed during the Olympics in 2008. Even Hong Kongers believe that. There is also a general sentiment that China's markets should rise, since China is already - in Chinese eyes - one of the richest countries in the world. I think Chinese investors are setting themselves up for the mother of all stock market crashes. Which should be fun to watch. From a distance.

* I have to say, though, that this latest mantra is a big improvement on recitations from Mao's Little Red Book. This, at least, has something of an air of practicality about it. What they are saying is that the game is rigged by the government, which isn't far from the literal truth.

7 posted on 05/09/2007 5:37:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
I'll go with 6662 then.

= )

8 posted on 05/09/2007 6:18:52 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: alnitak
Whenever you see every average Joe is buy stocks is when you know the end of the rise is near.

Unfortunately, the crash is also going to drag down all the other markets, like the US’s.

9 posted on 05/09/2007 6:20:28 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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Unfortunately, the crash is also going to drag down all the other markets, like the US’s.

I'm not convinced. The mechanism for contagion is via shifts from capital market to capital market. Individual Chinese can't buy American stocks. Individual Americans can't buy Chinese stocks (except for a sliver traded in Hong Kong and via ADR's). The Chinese stock market isn't all that big, even at today's elevated valuations.

10 posted on 05/09/2007 7:49:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
As I remember it, the Shanghai market dropped something like 10% one day last month, and all the Asian markets followed suit. The US market also had a correction the next day.

Of course, all the markets went back going up again, until the next time, of course.

11 posted on 05/09/2007 8:32:40 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Fishing-guy
As I remember it, the Shanghai market dropped something like 10% one day last month, and all the Asian markets followed suit. The US market also had a correction the next day.

What I've heard is that the US correction was related to real estate bubble fears, whereas the Chinese correction had to do with the tightening of lending standards. They just happened to be on the same day.

12 posted on 05/09/2007 8:55:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: alnitak
You know you have a bubble when taxi drivers start giving you investment tips. China is headed for a big, big fall. The regime may not survive it. If I had any money in China, which I don't right now, I would be watching day by day for the inevitable sell signal.
13 posted on 05/09/2007 9:00:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: alnitak

Kinda reminds me of the second half of the 90’s when I was day trading. Learned a few lessons!


14 posted on 05/09/2007 9:06:28 PM PDT by gbs
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