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To: Badeye

No kidding.

I am not supporting Rudy but articles like this are pretty bush league.


3 posted on 05/10/2007 6:19:44 AM PDT by misterrob (Yankees Suck!)
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To: misterrob

“I am not supporting Rudy but articles like this are pretty bush league.”

Same position here.


4 posted on 05/10/2007 6:21:26 AM PDT by Badeye (If you can't take a response, don't post in an open forum is my advice.)
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To: misterrob
I am not supporting Rudy but articles like this are pretty bush league.

Not quite. A real "bush league" article would be:

"Guiliani causes cancer, kicks puppies, picks nose and eats it."

7 posted on 05/10/2007 6:39:17 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Everyone wants a simple answer; but sometimes there isn't a simple answer)
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To: misterrob; Badeye
He didn't pay for these rings until years later -- he belatedly paid $2K for the 1996 ring in 2004. If he received any of these rings while in office, he violated state and city laws, and Conflict of Interests Board rules:

From this article http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0719,barrett,76566,2.html : What's more troubling is that Giuliani's receipt of the rings may be a serious breach of the law, and one that could still be prosecuted. New York officials are barred from taking a gift of greater than $50 value from anyone doing business with the city, and under Giuliani, that statute was enforced aggressively against others. His administration forced a fire department chief, for example, to retire, forfeit $93,105 in salary, and pay a $6,000 fine for taking Broadway tickets to two shows and a free week in a ski condo from a city vendor. The city's Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB) has applied the gift rule to discounts as well, unless the cheaper rate "is available generally to all government employees." When a buildings department deputy commissioner was indicted in 2000 for taking Mets and Rangers tickets, as well as a family trip to Florida, from a vendor, an outraged Giuliani denounced his conduct as "reprehensible," particularly "at high levels in city agencies," and said that such officials had to be "singled out" and "used as examples."

City officials are also required to disclose gifts from anyone but relatives on forms filed with the COIB, something Giuliani did not do with any of the rings. Giuliani certainly used to sound serious about the need for full public disclosure. In 1989, he denounced his mayoral opponent, David Dinkins, for failing to disclose frequent-flier tickets to France given to him by a friend, even though the friend did no business with the city; Giuliani called it an example of "arrogance and disrespect for legal and ethical obligations."

And there's another, more recent, and closer-to-home example of arrogant nondisclosure noted publicly by Giuliani. When former police commissioner Bernard Kerik pled guilty last year to charges involving a city contractor's gift to him of a $165,000 apartment renovation, Giuliani said that Kerik had "acknowledged his violations." As part of a $221,000 plea deal, Kerik agreed to pay a $10,000 fine to the COIB for accepting and then failing to accurately disclose the renovations. Not only are Kerik and Giuliani's concealed gifts of similar value, but Kerik, like Giuliani, made a partial payment for the renovations—$17,800, far less than full value.

More ominous for Giuliani, Kerik's prosecution came eight years after the renovation of his apartment began, an indication that the ordinary statute of limitations doesn't apply to the continuing reporting requirements of the COIB. In addition, Giuliani reportedly paid the Yankees as recently as 2004 for one of the rings, another reason why an investigation might still be timely. It is also a violation of state unlawful-gratuity statutes for a public official to "solicit, accept, or agree to accept any benefit" from a business like the Yankees, which leases the stadium from the city.

At the very least, this appears to be yet more proof that Giuliani only believes in enforcing "law and order" for the little people. It seems that in his mind, he's not subject to authority, he IS the authority -- free of the legal fetters that bind the serfs.

28 posted on 05/11/2007 10:38:24 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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