[Mr. Jeeves]

I think it's avant garde, chromatic ugliness masquerading as innovation that has killed jazz. When people hear Chick Corea or Pat Metheny, they instantly like it. But many purists insist neither one is "real jazz".

It's like that old Apple commercial with two guys comparing the relative technical merits of the Mac and the PC, and at the end one guy blurts out: "Well, that's not really a fair comparison. People like using the Mac." ;)

[Finny]

I think it's avant garde, chromatic ugliness masquerading as innovation that has killed jazz. When people hear Chick Corea or Pat Metheny, they instantly like it. But many purists insist neither one is "real jazz".

You state it so eloquently! Well said!