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To: bmwcyle; trisham; don-o; LonePalm; wita; AmericaUnited; freeangel; varyouga; massgopguy; ...
I'm going to repeat part of what varyouga amd massgopguy said, because this is important:

"Biotech companies advertise all the time here on campus. They print stuff like “Earn $5000 Easy and Fast”. In reality, the procedures are very taxing with a significant risk of complications."

"Egg harvesting will also leave millions of women sterile if they get into the super-ovulation regimens required."

Right now they're paying the premium "top dollar" women (University student, blonde, long legs, blue-eyed and all that) $5,000 for ova to use for baby manufacturing for rich people who want smart blonde IVF babies. That's bad enough, since, inter alia, submitting to a bizarro-world hormonal regimen and surgery misrepresented to you as "safe," and ending up reproductively maimed, sterile, and/or dead is what we could call a suboptimal outcome, OK?

But the clone-research deal turns out to be much, much worse than even IVF-by-donor, because they're not going to pay anywhere near $5,000 per donor/vendor, and it won't matter whether the donor/vendor is an English Major at UCLA or a low-income, non-computer-literate young gal in Bakersfield or, better yet, Brazil.

Because for cloning research, they'll pay chump change per ovulatory cycle, and t'hell with whether the human subject was desperate, coerced, or unable to grasp the fine print or "do her own research" on the Internet. This is a brutal commodification of the bodies of women and girls.

(And you don't think there are plenty of men in societies where women are already regarded as chattel, who would sell their wives and daughters into this scheme?)

White Ova and Embryos, Great for Babies!

Brown Ova and Embryos (by the millions) Perfect for Experimentation!!

And I won't even talk about the prospect of what the very insightful Mrs. Veritatis Splendor said here.

Thank God for the feminists who can see what's coming down the road. The further they get into opposing this, the more they'll see the whole picture, babies and all.

20 posted on 05/11/2007 7:51:00 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever things are true, whatever are noble, just, pure, lovely--- brethren, think on these things.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thank God for the feminists who can see what's coming down the road. The further they get into opposing this, the more they'll see the whole picture, babies and all.

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It's very possible, Mrs. D.

21 posted on 05/11/2007 7:55:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Excellent discussion!


22 posted on 05/11/2007 8:34:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Death is perishable. Faith is eternal.)
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24 posted on 05/11/2007 8:36:50 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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Excellent article by FR's own Mrs. Don-o, and informative discussion on the thread. Maybe some feminists will see the larger picutre. I hope so. And the "progress" of mad science continues. Just because some procedure or practice is scientifically possible doesn't mean it is right, moral, beneficial or should be done. Science uninformed by morality leads to great evil.

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27 posted on 05/13/2007 11:27:15 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will know the truth.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Do you think men would step up to donate sperm if they knew there would be long term adverse affects? Would they research it first? There are plenty of reasons that infertility is such a problem for more women than there were two or three decades ago, this is going to complicate it even more.

College students don’t really think in terms of what effect will this have on my marriage and wanting a family in 10 years.


29 posted on 05/13/2007 11:59:01 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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