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To: BobS

I think it was more a purely faith-based principle, but it probably had some practical benefits in the 1800s.

And I agree there will be some Mormons(even back then) that will abuse the practice such that it fits stereotypes at times. But in general, it was a practice of the Mormon church that was not evil, although the perception to others can be bad. Certainly today’s apostates in Arizona are turning it into a tragic legacy. But the main leaders of the church(Joseph Smith and Brigham Young) were men like the prophet Abraham..(in my opinion).


76 posted on 05/11/2007 4:13:22 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Count of Monte Logan
Um, the evidence is Joe Smith had himself married and sealed to several already married women; it was one of the points which infuriated communities his people tried to settle amongst. Don’t go too far with the plural marriage discussion, it isn’t relevant to Mitt Romney or his exemplary marriage.
78 posted on 05/11/2007 4:19:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Count of Monte Logan
I know I am asking questions about the thinking from a long, long time ago. I will assume it was at first for survival on several levels.

If somebody tried that with today's women, there would be a noisy multiple homicide started by one of the women.

89 posted on 05/11/2007 4:37:26 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Count of Monte Logan
I think it was more a purely faith-based principle...
 
Emma seemed not to think so!
 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???

 
 
Oh, by the way...
THE DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

SECTION 132:34
 
 God commanded Abraham, and Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham to wife. And why did she do it? Because this was the law; and from Hagar sprang many people. This, therefore, was fulfilling, among other things, the promises.
 
You LDS folks will be hard pressed to find THIS assertion in the OT.
 
 
The facts:
 
NIV Genesis 15:1-6
 1.  After this, the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision: "Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your very great reward. "
 2.  But Abram said, "O Sovereign LORD, what can you give me since I remain childless and the one who will inherit  my estate is Eliezer of Damascus?"
 3.  And Abram said, "You have given me no children; so a servant in my household will be my heir."
 4.  Then the word of the LORD came to him: "This man will not be your heir, but a son coming from your own body will be your heir."
 5.  He took him outside and said, "Look up at the heavens and count the stars--if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be."
 6.  Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
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NIV Genesis 16:1-16
 1.  Now Sarai, Abram's wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian maidservant named Hagar;
 2.  so she said to Abram, "The LORD has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my maidservant; perhaps I can build a family through her."   Abram agreed to what Sarai said.
 3.  So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian maidservant Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.
 4.  He slept with Hagar, and she conceived.   When she knew she was pregnant, she began to despise her mistress.
 5.  Then Sarai said to Abram, "You are responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put my servant in your arms, and now that she knows she is pregnant, she despises me. May the LORD judge between you and me."
 6.  "Your servant is in your hands," Abram said. "Do with her whatever you think best." Then Sarai mistreated Hagar; so she fled from her.
 7.  The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur.
 8.  And he said, "Hagar, servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?"   "I'm running away from my mistress Sarai," she answered.
 9.  Then the angel of the LORD told her, "Go back to your mistress and submit to her."
 10.  The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."
 11.  The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery.
 12.  He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward  all his brothers."
 13.  She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: "You are the God who sees me," for she said, "I have now seen  the One who sees me."
 14.  That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi ; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.
 15.  So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne.
 16.  Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael. 

111 posted on 05/12/2007 4:49:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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