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sigh...We won the west only to give it back I guess.

We ain't giving nothing away, Jack! We can't give it "back" to Mexicans because it was never theirs.

I talked to a Mexican guy in a pub in the West about that. I said to him (we were just standing by the bar), I said "How can Mexicans say the Western US is theirs when it always belonged to the Indians, and the Indians never gave it to Mexico?".

He said with this nonchalant attitude, "Oh, it was the Spanish who took it."

And I said, "But if they steal it, then you get independence from them, it doesn't mean you just get what they stole when the Indians still never gave it to you."

He wanted to answer that, but just then the music started blaring and we couldn't talk anymore, so we wandered away from each other.

It was a friendly conversation, but it shows their often childish attitudes. I've found Mexicans never want to take responsibility for anything. They always try to say if others did something they they don't have to be responsible.

Like the Spanish stole the Indian lands, so the Mexicans just get to claim it. And they say if people in the US didn't buy drugs, then the Mexicans wouldn't sell them (but they make no effort to stop selling them), and I once heard a radio show where a bank out West was giving checking accounts to illegal aliens. They had a Mexican woman on who said "Well, if you give out the accounts then they can open them."

Always this childish avoidance of adult responsibility for their own actions. That is why Mexico is the reeking crap dump it is today.