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Lego upsets parents by producing guns for children's play sets
thisislondon ^ | riday 11.05.07 | thisislondon

Posted on 05/11/2007 5:55:51 PM PDT by holymoly

Lego has upset fans by giving some of its play figures realistic-looking guns and pistols.

For generations its products have been seen as providing harmless fun - it was even said that for years it refused to supply green bricks in case boys used them to make tanks.

But critics accuse it of changing its stance, partly because of tie-ins with big-budget films and partly to counter the challenge of action-packed computer games.

The new versions of its Star Wars Stormtroopers now carry guns so large they can hardly hold them, despite the previous ones having nothing more alarming than a torch.

The company's latest Batman sets also include semi-automatic pistols and Tommy guns.

And its futuristic Bionicle robot creations are armed to the teeth with blades and blasters.

Lego fans and members of The Brickish Association, which bills itself as forum for adult fans of Lego, say there has been a clear shift in policy.

One senior figure in the association said the company had used semi-realistic guns in the past, for pirate sets and those for cowboys, but nothing like those seen in its Star Wars and Batman products.

"Lego's take on creating weaponry has changed over the years," he said.

"My understanding is that the philosophy of the founding fathers of the company was to be non-violent and not to include realistic guns.

"But as they have got more realistic sets and sets that are licensed with big films, there has been an acceptance of guns.

"I very much hope Lego is not being dragged along by a trend for more violent toys and games.

"The philosophy of the company is very family friendly, non-violent, play."

Huw Millington, who runs the Brickset website, said: "There has been a change in emphasis with more realistic-looking guns. It may be that the tie-up with Hollywood is to blame.

"Some people say the brand has gone downhill since it signed licensing deals with big films, but personally I don't agree."

Lego said the Star Wars accessories were changed to make them closer to what fans saw on screen.

A spokesman added that the company, which was founded in Denmark in 1932, was careful about its policy on guns, saying: "We would still never make modern warfare weapons."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: hoplophobia; lego; wartoys; wussification
...its Star Wars Stormtroopers now carry guns so large they can hardly hold them, despite the previous ones having nothing more alarming than a torch...

A torch? Isn't that limey for "flashlight"?

1 posted on 05/11/2007 5:55:52 PM PDT by holymoly
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To: holymoly

Oh give me a frickin’ break.


2 posted on 05/11/2007 5:57:43 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: holymoly
It could be worse...


3 posted on 05/11/2007 5:57:59 PM PDT by jdm
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To: holymoly

I say buy more lego sets that have guns! Demand rules!


4 posted on 05/11/2007 5:58:55 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: yldstrk

5 posted on 05/11/2007 5:59:29 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: holymoly

My Planet of the Apes action figures all carried machineguns. (Well, until my 7-year-old nephew was allowed to play with them when I wasn’t home . . . but that’s another story.)


6 posted on 05/11/2007 5:59:51 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: holymoly
I too am upset that there are such things as "toy" guns.

They all should be real. I got my first firearm for my 6th birthday.

7 posted on 05/11/2007 6:00:17 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: holymoly
I still miss the website, Leggo Death. It was taken off the net a couple of years ago. I was hoping it was archived somewhere.
8 posted on 05/11/2007 6:01:41 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: holymoly

All the PC parents would really blow a gasket if their kiddies used their Legos to build this: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/custom-built-lego-machine-gun

[Very cool video of a custom-built, functional Lego machine gun]


9 posted on 05/11/2007 6:02:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Current tagline banned under hate speech laws.)
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To: elkfersupper

The feminization and emasculation of the male population. Who will protect the women if the men are hiding behind them? BOY’S WILL BE BOY’S


10 posted on 05/11/2007 6:04:07 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: ronnie raygun

Wusification


11 posted on 05/11/2007 6:05:31 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: holymoly
“The philosophy of the company is very family friendly, non-violent, play.”

What a bunch of pantywaists. Jihadies killing innocent people by the bushel all over the world and these jokers are worried about a plastic gun on a microscopic action figure. Maybe someday we'll get our priorities in order.

12 posted on 05/11/2007 6:05:41 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: jdm

And for alternative lifestyles, there’s “Lego Brokeback Mountain”:

http://destinationdaniel.smugmug.com/gallery/1213678#56771253


13 posted on 05/11/2007 6:05:59 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: holymoly
I have to post again that today, this very day, my grandson and namesake was admonished by his daycare and made to turn his t-shirt inside out because it had the emblem of a popular band, Guns n Roses.

Apparently the very mention of the concept of "guns" is a terrible faux pas. The staff thought it was appropriate to humiliate my grandson by making him turn his shirt inside out to punish him for mentioning the word "guns".

What a bunch of pansie liberals is "nurturing" our children. They are teaching them that to resist or fight is horrible, unmentionable.

14 posted on 05/11/2007 6:06:19 PM PDT by Sender ("America is at that awkward stage..." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: holymoly

I agree. I don’t want guns in them.


15 posted on 05/11/2007 6:08:10 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: holymoly

Shh! My boys use duplos and legos to make guns.


16 posted on 05/11/2007 6:09:52 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy

Yep. Legos are supposed to be for creativity. I want my kids to build their own guns.


17 posted on 05/11/2007 6:11:17 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Sender

If our grandfathers had been brought up in today’s atmosphere, we would be speaking German and Japanese.


18 posted on 05/11/2007 6:12:54 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Spirochete

That isn’t Ann Coulter, is it?


19 posted on 05/11/2007 6:14:39 PM PDT by liege
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To: holymoly
Kids have been playing with play guns for hundreds of years and learned the difference between toys and guns. Now anti gun wackos want to confuse kids and cause a lot of accidents. We grew up learning right and wrong watching shoot-um-ups but I guess there was an American way that was different then. The bad guys used to loose, then.
20 posted on 05/11/2007 6:18:47 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: Sender

Countdown to classic literature that has violence/weapons/offensive magic being banned from the schools.


21 posted on 05/11/2007 6:20:41 PM PDT by John Will
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To: holymoly
My MIL drug out my husband's Lincoln Logs for our kids to play while they visited. The kids made rifles out of Lincoln Logs and duct tape.

22 posted on 05/11/2007 6:22:36 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: holymoly
Send 'em to me. My kids love them.
23 posted on 05/11/2007 6:25:57 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: holymoly

You have got to be kidding me. They are using now if their is any tobacco use in movies is a reason to rate it. What is going on in this country we rate movies if someone smokes a cigarette which last time I checked is legal.


24 posted on 05/11/2007 6:32:13 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: holymoly
At first, my folks were finicky about letting me get toy guns. Then Bravestarr came out (great underrated classic cartoon) and I would make a toy gun out of the big kiddy legos that came in the buckets.
25 posted on 05/11/2007 6:41:29 PM PDT by tranzorZ
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To: All
Boys will be boys.
26 posted on 05/11/2007 6:44:47 PM PDT by dighton
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To: holymoly
They’ve always had swords and ray guns and weapony looking things that look like blasters when put on a space ship.

Across the ocean, children are taught to throw rocks at tanks and resist and kill Americans. They are taught that it is a brave thing to wear the belt and kill themselves and infidels. When these children meet ours on tomorrows’ battlefield, who will have the advantage?

They’ll advance waving crayon pictures of guns on construction paper and our boys will scatter and call for help.

27 posted on 05/11/2007 6:45:27 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: holymoly

Lego has delighted fans by giving some of its play figures realistic-looking guns and pistols.


28 posted on 05/11/2007 6:50:45 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: CindyDawg
I agree. I don’t want guns in them.

Hey, here's an idea: don't buy the kits with them. My boys love the star wars kits. I've got 20 year old pirate kits with guns and cannons.

29 posted on 05/11/2007 6:58:06 PM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: holymoly
Every true Lego firearms fan gets their full size hardware kits from BrickGun.comLego Beretta
30 posted on 05/11/2007 7:29:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: jdm

LOL!


31 posted on 05/11/2007 7:31:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Just say no to Brady Bunch Republicans.)
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To: jdm
Image hosted by Photobucket.com tooo damn funny...
32 posted on 05/11/2007 7:36:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: holymoly
And for the little guys, BrickArms does the trick!

BrickArms G36

Ready for action!

Hands Up

33 posted on 05/11/2007 7:37:06 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: holymoly
This really surprises me. Lego is one of the most PC corporations I’ve ever run across. Wouldn’t be surprised if they take the product/products off the market immediately, if not going the extra mile to build a time machine to go back and eliminate the person who had the idea to market the gun/guns in the first place.
34 posted on 05/11/2007 7:51:36 PM PDT by Fry_Daddy
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To: CindyDawg

“I agree. I don’t want guns in them.”

Wow, from the time my daughters were 8-10 YO, they were exposed to, trained on and handled guns. My wife and I insisted on it.

Today (they are in their 30’s now) they respect and understand the potential harm AND GOOD possible with weapons.

Last I heard, no one in my family has threatened (needlessly), harmed or killed anyone.


35 posted on 05/11/2007 7:53:42 PM PDT by dbacks
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To: holymoly

I’m an AFOL (Adult Friend of Lego). Because of the paucity of weapons, some AFOLers have taken to actually casting their own plastic weapons. I’ve got a few special-built ones (actually my son does, he got if from someone in my AFOL club).

Lego has a large and growing adult fan base, that do a lot of very adult things with their Legos , including some very realistic modern warfare layouts with tanks, planes, guns, the works. I’ve seen some excellent renditions of weaponry.


36 posted on 05/11/2007 7:54:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jdm
That reminds me of the pictures at The Brick Testament:

The guy recounts stories and lessons from the Bible, using Legos to illustrate. He's got several "suggestive" pictures like the for marriage.

This however is my favorite, about the role of Women in the church and family:


37 posted on 05/11/2007 7:58:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Fry_Daddy
I saw this in the bookstore a while ago. It's the bible in pictures with lego people. kind of weird, but i got a chuckle...
38 posted on 05/11/2007 8:02:19 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: HungarianGypsy

You should see the cool guns my kids made our of our K’nex sets.

My daughter was working with two boys on a project about Medieval weaponry, and yesterday the shop teacher told them they weren’t allowed to build wooden weapons in shop class.

Today they found out it was OK, but the shop teacher didn’t want to help, so now they are scrambling to get the work done.

We played with guns that looked real that used “caps” to make loud sounds. I guess we turned out pretty bad, except it isn’t OUR generation running around shooting up schools.


39 posted on 05/11/2007 8:07:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

My 7 year old’s favorite toy is a rubber band gun. He’s been asking for a pop gun since he watched the old Our Gang shorts.


40 posted on 05/11/2007 8:11:32 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
It’s cute. But it couldn’t possibly be from a factory sponsored kit... could it?
41 posted on 05/11/2007 8:12:19 PM PDT by Fry_Daddy
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To: freeandfreezing

I think this is the guy I know, but we aren’t sure.


42 posted on 05/11/2007 8:15:06 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: holymoly

The demonizing of guns by liberals is just part of the overall scheme by socialists and communists to convert the United States to a socialist state. Start young and indoctrinate.
We taught our kids to shoot when they were pre-teens. Even before that we gave my oldest daughter the means to protect herself by sending her to self defence school at the age of 8. This was in response to her getting beat up every few weeks by a gang of boys all 4 years older than her. When she finally beat the crap out of the 3 boys that had tormented her for so long, we got called into her school to answer for why she was taking karate lessons. We explained the problem, the school was unhappy and we told them it was none of their business. My daughter is now grown up and has continued karate and kung fu training for the past 28 years. This past Christmas while gift shopping, some fool tried to mug her. He will not be doing that again.
Yes she did play with Legos. Every kid loves Legos, but we did not raise our kids to be victims.


43 posted on 05/11/2007 8:45:18 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: holymoly
I had tons of Legos that had Swords and stuff.
I used to get some great Viking sets in Sweden.
44 posted on 05/11/2007 8:48:30 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: dbacks

I’ve got nothng against guns. Why do people always have to mess with stuff though?


45 posted on 05/11/2007 9:43:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: jdm

46 posted on 05/12/2007 11:12:17 AM PDT by BykrBayb (May the way of the hero lead to the triforce! )
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To: jdm

Where do people get these pics! And so quickly! :-)


47 posted on 05/12/2007 12:19:02 PM PDT by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: NucSubs

They’ve been around a while, actually.


48 posted on 05/12/2007 1:28:00 PM PDT by jdm
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