Posted on 05/11/2007 9:18:14 PM PDT by teldon30
Sorry man, but that’s incorrect. As an American of Irish decent here I feel I need to point out the fact that the Celts and the Gauls were two distinct ethnic groups of ancient Europe.
As a matter of fact, Gaul DOES NOT equal Gael. The words themselves originated from different cultures more than a thousand years apart to describe different peoples.
Gael is derived from a Welsh word. It’s what the Welsh called my Irish ancestors. It didn’t enter into use until after the time of Christ.
Ya see, it was common practice for Irish youth back then to hop the water and wander over to Wales and England to have a bit of “fun”. All harmless stuff really; just a bit of cattle raiding, pillaging, the acquiring of any livestock or young women not nailed down. ;)
The Welsh word translates roughly as “Pirate” or “Raider”.
Gaul on the other hand is a different word entirely. It’s derived from ‘Gallica’, if I recall correctly, which is what the Romans called western Europe.
The Gauls as a people were distinct from the Celts as well (for a time anyway). As a matter of fact, in the late iron age there were a number of Gaulish tribes that had been subjugated by Celtic invaders.
No wonder Seung-Hui Cho was so pissed off! He couldn’t get a date on a bet. Now we know what drove him over the edge.
Even by the “ evolution “ argument we are one race
Going back to the East African rift area about 4 millions years ago
Thanks
I don't think it's racism. My feeling is that white gals don't find Oriental guys good-looking, so they figure white guys can't possibly find Oriental gals good-looking. By that reasoning, the attraction has to be based on something other than their looks, i.e. their submissiveness. In the real world, the most submissive women on the planet are probably Muslim women, with Hindu women just a little less so.
Luckily for Indian men working in America, they will have absolutely no problem getting an arranged marriage in India.
Guy I work with is a 37-y.o. Indian American (his folks were immigrants). His parents got him into an arranged marriage with a girl in India he had never met in person. Arranged marriages are the norm in India.
That's what I've always figured. But Muslim and Hindu women have Oriental women beat hands down for submissiveness. My theory, in reply to another commenter, is that white women don't find Oriental men attractive, so they figure white men can't possibly find Oriental women attractive, meaning it's got to be something else, i.e. their "submissiveness".
I don't know if that is intended as an indictment against me, but if it is you missed. Stereotypes are generally rooted in some truth based on past history. For instance, pit bulls. I am sure that all pit bulls are not viscious killers, but because of the breeds history and nature that is the impression that most people have of them(even many that own them). If you disagree, why don't you start fearlessly walking up to every pit bull you see and try petting him? I bet you won't do that.
The problems arise when people take them to the extreme, and are unwilling to evaluate people or things on an individual level.
Isn’t there a vaccination for that? Oh, wait, that’s that other disease.
31 flavors ping.
>>>Sorry man, but thats incorrect. As an American of Irish decent here I feel I need to point out the fact that the Celts and the Gauls were two distinct ethnic groups of ancient Europe... Gaul DOES NOT equal Gael. The words themselves originated from different cultures more than a thousand years apart to describe different peoples.... Gael is derived from a Welsh word... Gaul on the other hand is a different word entirely. Its derived from Gallica, if I recall correctly, which is what the Romans called western Europe... The Gauls as a people were distinct from the Celts as well (for a time anyway). As a matter of fact, in the late iron age there were a number of Gaulish tribes that had been subjugated by Celtic invaders.<<<
SRONG!
Wikipaedia:
In English, the word Gaul (French: Gaulois) may also refer to a Celtic inhabitant of that region, although the expression may be used more generally for all ancient speakers of the Gaulish language (a derivative of early Celtic) who were widespread in Europe and extended even into central Anatolia by Roman times. In this way, “Gaul” and “Celt” are sometimes used interchangeably.
I don't think Indian (or other South Asian) men have a problem getting hitched. The problem is with Oriental (i.e. yellow-skinned) men. Indian men get hitched back home because that's what's expected of them. They could equally find Indian women to marry in the US on their own, but are far more traditional than Oriental men. So they obey their parents.
How do you figure that Indians are far more traditional than Orientals? The same way you do in the Mid East. Just how often do you see people dressed in native costume in the Mid East and India? Very often. And how often in the Far East? Just about never. They dress just like Westerners, except perhaps a little less casually.
Romantic love is simply not part of the Indian tradition. It isn't part of the Oriental tradition either, but has been absorbed from the West along with other Western customs like monogamous marriage and Western dress. India has done a much better job of preserving its age-old traditions. Which is why things like arranged marriages continue to be a fact of Indian life.
“As soon as I got my degree I moved to SoFlo and ran amuck, knee deep in Latinas. Now I get my wish every day.
I’m doing the same thing.(just saving up the money for the move)”
Don’t worry when the amnesty is passed, the whole country will be knee deep in Latinas and the conservatives will be a permanent minority. ( but don’t worry about our country, just have your fun)
Why dogs are better than women...
Considering your tagline, what’s your take on the psalm that speaks of us being ‘fearfully and wonderfully made’ by God, as regards being hardwired to some degree in what we uniquely find beautiful?
Granted, stereotypes and bigotry greatly impact people....
I don’t disagree with anything you say, the author said that Indian men were the hardest to match.
For whatever reason, arranged marriages don’t seem quite a common among other Asians.
Sorry man, but it ain’t ‘SRONG’ ;)
Since you quoted Wikipedia, I might as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael
So no, Gaels are not the same as Gauls.
Your wikipedia quote states that ‘sometimes’ Gaul and Celt are used interchangeably. That doesn’t, however, mean that it’s correct to do so.
It might be a convenient linguistic shortcut for modern people unaware of the history of the tribes of Gaul and the Celts, but it isn’t necessarily correct.
In modern term, it’d be a bit like calling Mexicans ‘Spanish’ or calling Spanish folks ‘Mexican’. There’s some overlapping of history, geography and language over time; but they’re still distinct peoples.
Joke making the rounds in the Cuban American community a few years back:
Cuban mother in Miami having a heart to heart talk with her daughter and son, both in their 20's.
"My son, I want you to marry a nice Cuban girl so you can tell her what to do."
"My daughter, I want you to marry a nice boy who is at least a third-generation American so you can tell him what to do."
Wow, I’m half Filipino as well! (father was originally from Mindanao, mother’s family is Polish/German/British). I’ve heard in Hawaii, half Filipinos are called “jalapenos.”
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