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Domestic Manufacturers Group Says “New Trade Policy” Ignores Producers’ and Workers’ Real Interests
American Chronicle ^ | 05/11/2007 | Newswire Services

Posted on 05/12/2007 5:02:32 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: 1rudeboy
Or never buying anything lower priced.
21 posted on 05/12/2007 9:41:30 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

http://www.gohunter08.com/inner.asp?z=11

Keeping American Industry and Jobs in the U.S.

“American workers are the most productive and innovative labor force in the world. Unfortunately, they are asked to compete in an unfair environment against other workers who make only a fraction of a living wage and are employed by companies that face few, if any, responsibilities to the environment or the long-term prospects of their employees. Our domestic manufacturers are forced to compete against foreign companies that benefit from their country’s currency and regulatory regimes. Ominously, China is cheating on trade and using billions of American trade dollars to build ships, planes and missiles at an alarming rate while, at the same time, taking millions of American jobs. I will reverse this “one-way street” with a new policy of fair trade for the American worker.


22 posted on 05/12/2007 9:55:09 AM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: airborne
Thanks, but that doesn't define fair trade.

American workers are the most productive and innovative labor force in the world.

Yes we are.

Unfortunately, they are asked to compete in an unfair environment against other workers who make only a fraction of a living wage

What does that mean? They earn so little they die?

and are employed by companies that face few, if any, responsibilities to the environment or the long-term prospects of their employees.

Yes, just like many American companies 100 years ago.

Our domestic manufacturers are forced to compete against foreign companies that benefit from their country’s currency and regulatory regimes.

Yes, China overpays for raw materials and undercharges for finished goods.

and using billions of American trade dollars to build ships, planes and missiles at an alarming rate while

That's true.

at the same time, taking millions of American jobs.

We're up to an alarming 4.5% unemployment rate. Maybe they didn't take millions?

I will reverse this “one-way street” with a new policy of fair trade for the American worker.

So spill, what's the policy?

23 posted on 05/12/2007 10:06:22 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: airborne

I do not agree with the fair trade idea if that means we think we can didtate wages and environmental regs in other countries. Hunter makes a good case for renegotiating the terms of some agreements, though. We needs to always be looking out for our interests as things change.


24 posted on 05/12/2007 10:46:19 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Would you rather be a lawyer’s proctologist or a proctologist’s lawyer? They both do pretty much the same thing to each other...”

ROTFLMAO!!


25 posted on 05/12/2007 11:00:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Paperdoll

Like the drywallers
Carpenters
roofers

who lost their jobs to illegal immigrants.


26 posted on 05/12/2007 11:03:23 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well, they weren’t really a middle class, in the sense of being bourgeoisie, and they certainly weren’t a class, in the true sense of the word. They were unionized workers who ended up in the suburbs with 2 cars in the garage.


27 posted on 05/12/2007 11:05:51 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Paperdoll

How can they be your jobs? They are not, and never were.


28 posted on 05/12/2007 11:07:29 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

read later


29 posted on 05/12/2007 11:10:58 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Bump for a later read. From what I’ve heard so far...not good.

Here’s just some interesting tidbits on the election:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1131AP_Children_Glance.html

Presidential candidates’ children

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

A look of the children of the 2008 presidential candidates:

DEMOCRATS:

-Delaware Sen. Joe Biden: Sons Beau, 38, and Hunter, 36, and daughter Ashley, 25. An infant daughter, Naomi, died in an auto accident in 1972, along with Biden’s first wife, Neilia.

-New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton: Daughter Chelsea, 27.

-Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd: Daughters Grace, 5, and Christina, 2.

-Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards: Daughters Cate, 25, and Emma Claire, 9, and son Jack, 6. Another son, Wade, died in an auto accident in 1996 at age 16.

-Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Daughter Jackie, 24.

-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama: Daughters Malia, 8, and Sasha, 5.

-New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson: No children.

REPUBLICANS:

-Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback: Sons Andy, 19, and Mark, 9. Daughters Abby, 20; Elizabeth, 17; and Jenna, 9.

-Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore: Sons Jay, 23, and Ashton, 19.

-Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani: Son Andrew, 21, and daughter Caroline, 18.

-Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee: Sons John Mark, 30, and David, 27, and daughter Sarah, 24.

-California Rep. Duncan Hunter: Sons Duncan, 30, and Sam, 24.

-Arizona Sen. John McCain: Sons Doug, 47; Andy, 45; Jack, 21; and James, 18. Daughters Sidney, 40; Meghan, 22; and Bridget, 16.

-Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney: Sons Tagg, 37; Matt, 35; Josh, 31; Ben, 28; and Craig, 25.

-Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo: Sons Ray 40, and Randy, 36.

-Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson: Daughters Kelli 36, and Tommi, 35, and son Jason, 31.


30 posted on 05/12/2007 12:22:24 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: ClaireSolt

How can they be your jobs? They are not and never were.<

The were American’s jobs, and they always were until they outsourced. The US = the U.S.. :o)


31 posted on 05/12/2007 1:04:24 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

This is taken from a speech delivered by Duncan Hunter’s 2008 Announcement Speech - Found as part of many DH items on Blog4President.US -

http://blog.4president.org/2008/duncan_hunter/index.html

“America’s Arsenal of Democracy is reflected in the thousands of factories, plants and businesses that make domestic products in peacetime, but can be called on to make military equipment in a time of war.

Three times in the last century we saved the world for freedom: WWI, WWII and the Cold War.

In World War II, our manufacturing base made more than: 100,000 tanks; 2.4 million vehicles; 36 billion yards of cloth; 3 million rifles; 41 billion rounds of ammunition; and 41,000 artillery pieces.

The Arsenal of Democracy carried Eisenhower’s forces to Berlin and paved the way for the Marines in the Pacific as they pushed the Japanese back to their mainland. This great arsenal, our industrial base, was important to collapsing the Soviet Empire and the Berlin Wall because it provided the strength in Ronald Reagan’s stand against the forces of evil.

Today my friends, the Arsenal of Democracy is being pulled away. Massive production of textiles, steel and machine tools are no longer found in South Carolina, or Ohio, or Pennsylvania, nor dozens of other states. In fact, as Chairman of the Armed Services Committee, when I sent my team to get more steel to protect troops against roadside bombs in Iraq, they found only one company in the U.S. making armor plate grade steel.

When a Swiss company cut off the critical component for our smart bombs only one U.S. company remained which could supply it.

Now, if you want to find where our Arsenal of Democracy has gone, you must look in places like Korea, France and, perhaps more ominously, China.

China is cheating on trade. They are piling up over 200 billion U.S. dollars each year as a result and they are buying ships, planes and missiles with American trade dollars.

They have purchased Russian Sovreignny Class missile cruisers designed to destroy American aircraft carriers.

They have built between 750 and 1,000 medium range ballistic missiles and they have 17 submarines under construction.

How are they cheating? China gives 17% tax rebate to their exporters and a 17% penalty to our businesses who export to them. In addition, they maintain a 40% currency devaluation just to make sure the U.S. business doesn’t win.

This is not free trade. This is not fair trade. It’s cheating and if we put up with it, then we are disserving not only business and workers, but also our security.

If this was a football game, it means China has put 74 points on the score board before the opening kick-off.

Our own head of the Federal Reserve Board, Mr. Bernanke, went to China a few weeks ago and wrote a speech describing China’s currency manipulation as a “subsidy.” Then he pulled those words out so as not to anger his Communist hosts.

I thought Republicans didn’t believe in appeasing Communists.

This isn’t a game. It is pulling apart American’s Arsenal of Democracy which has saved the world three times in the last century and will be called on to do so again.

As President, I will make sure that our businesses and workers get a level playing field. I will do this because our security is at stake.

We will be able to do this because we still have the most important thing in a trade deal: we have the market, and to reach our market other nations will have to make a deal that gives our citizens a chance to win.

Today starts a time for choosing for every American manufacturer and worker. Choose to give in to China’s cheating, to the one-way street that takes good profits, businesses and jobs and makes us a debtor nation to a country which has never shown mercy.

Or, choose to join me to enforce fair trade with a two-way street that gives every business and worker the chance to succeed.

Will you join me?”


32 posted on 05/12/2007 3:02:28 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: airborne
China gives 17% tax rebate to their exporters and a 17% penalty to our businesses who export to them.

Yes, I believe all countries with a VAT do the same.

In addition, they maintain a 40% currency devaluation just to make sure the U.S. business doesn’t win.

Over paying for their raw materials and undercharging when they sell makes it difficult for their companies to make a profit and difficult for our companies to compete.

The rest sounds good but I didn't see any specifics for making trade "fair".

33 posted on 05/12/2007 5:18:23 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It isn’t “free’ either, but Hunter would make it “fairer” for American businesses and workers, and keep vital military items from being produced by potential enemies.

Right now we’re helping build up China’s military on the backs of the Chinese workers, and at the expense of Americans.

NAFTA and CAFTA didn’t turn out all that good for America.


34 posted on 05/12/2007 5:27:58 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: airborne
NAFTA and CAFTA didn’t turn out all that good for America.

How's that?

35 posted on 05/12/2007 5:33:09 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

We’re already having trouble keeping businesses from outsourcing.

This makes it even easier, so it will only get worse.

I admit, I’m not a globalist nor a NWO guy. And I don’t claim to be an expert on the subject.

But let me ask you - what are we getting out of the two that benefits America?


36 posted on 05/12/2007 5:46:07 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Paperdoll; All

Whatever comrade.. No one here in America is entitled to a job..


37 posted on 05/12/2007 5:51:25 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: airborne
We’re already having trouble keeping businesses from outsourcing.

And those insourcers are killing us too.

I admit, I’m not a globalist nor a NWO guy.

Neither am I.

But let me ask you - what are we getting out of the two that benefits America?

More exports, more imports.

38 posted on 05/12/2007 5:52:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
And those insourcers are killing us too.

Too much government regulations and union demands, IMO.

More exports, more imports.

Am I wrong in thinking we're paying more in tariffs (if that's the correct word) on our exports and they're not on our imports from outside?

39 posted on 05/12/2007 5:59:19 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

More exports, more imports.

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WHAT are we exporting more of?

Other than our factories, and our national treasure?

All we’re doing is importing more, and more, and more.

We’re losing our ability to manufacture. We’re losing our programming and technical abilities. We’re amassing trillions of dollars in debt.

In what way have we benefitted from “free trade”?

Seems to me, like we’re very quickly, turning America into the next Rome.


40 posted on 05/12/2007 6:06:19 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Mr. President: PARDON NACHO AND JOSE!)
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