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To: burzum
I would expect that if you don't like this response you would phrase an argument along the lines of the ontological argument.

I think you have tryed to over-emphasise the point I put forward, I was making the point in general to the article concerned which seems to convey a kind of aetheistic movement occurring which is in itself a contradiction of aethism itself, i.e. aethism is the abstention from organised religion.

Anyway, if you want me to put an ontological argument forward then I think a good analagous example is found in the bible itself when Jesus explained his miracles, i.e he said, anything is possible for the one who believes.

This indicates that if the belief and faith are strong enough you could easily levitate a coffee cup with your mind, however as your not likely to have that belief you will fail, but what if you did???

17 posted on 05/14/2007 7:27:31 AM PDT by snowman_returns (The Stone Roses - best band the world ever saw, even if only for a year!!)
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To: snowman_returns

I was more referring to Descartes’ version of the ontological argument where it is irrelevant whether or not you believe in the existence of God in your argument since (he argues) an imperfect being being able to just conceive of a perfect being means that the idea was implanted by the perfect being. Therefore the perfect being exists.

I’m not a big fan of his ontological argument, but it does perform a helpful resolution of whether or not it is important to believe in the existence of God to argue for or against that existence.


18 posted on 05/14/2007 7:35:30 AM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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