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CA Court Halts Murder Case Because Not Enough Blacks Live in County
AmericaOutloud.org ^ | May 12th 2007 | Patricia Yollin

Posted on 05/14/2007 9:00:33 AM PDT by AmericaOutloud

The California Supreme Court, in a rare move, finally got involved in the war of words over the county's demographics. Earlier this week, it halted the proceedings in a double homicide case and agreed to review Hanlon's request for a change of venue, based on the "racial imbalance" of overwhelmingly white Lake County -- a land where dirt roads and double-wides coexist with wine country aspirations.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: lakecounty
In entertaining this argument isn't California's Supreme Court saying that blacks and whites are not peers? How can you paint the entire jury pool of a county as racists because not enough blacks live there? Can we do the same for inner city urban areas where few whites live?

From: http://www.americaoutloud.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1514

1 posted on 05/14/2007 9:00:41 AM PDT by AmericaOutloud
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To: AmericaOutloud

I knew this would happen one day. Whenever the standard is that a minority population has to match the national percentage, you will never have a perfectly even pool to draw from which to draw.


2 posted on 05/14/2007 9:06:58 AM PDT by doodad
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To: AmericaOutloud

Indeed, they must view this from the opposite perspective and ask if a member of a majority could object to a predominantly minority jury.


3 posted on 05/14/2007 9:08:08 AM PDT by NonValueAdded
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To: AmericaOutloud

I change of venue on these grounds is probably against the constitution. It’s simply a wrong decision, but who is going to challege the California Supreme Court on this, not the prosecutors, I’m sure. This is just another case of post modern restorative justice. The poor Blacks have been mistreated by whites in the US forever and so they should be given every advantage that the court system has to offer.


4 posted on 05/14/2007 9:10:08 AM PDT by Eva
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To: AmericaOutloud

What about Asians and Latinos and Indians?........This could get really silly real quick........


5 posted on 05/14/2007 9:10:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Eva
The poor Blacks have been mistreated by whites in the US forever and so they should be given every advantage that the court system has to offer.

WOW! I didn't know California was part of the Confederacy!.......

6 posted on 05/14/2007 9:12:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: AmericaOutloud

Is there a “black view” on the appropriateness of armed robbery and murder of a drug dealer that would otherwise not be represented on the jury? ;)


7 posted on 05/14/2007 9:12:26 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Why yes, haven’t you heard?

The proper “black view” is that all whites and republicans are guilty. All democrats are innocent. Only whites are racist.

Nifong made that arguement recently didn’t he?


8 posted on 05/14/2007 9:15:35 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: AmericaOutloud

Had a similar situation here where a Black, deaf woman killed her lesbian lover’s girlfriend and hacked her body into pieces with a chainsaw. There were attempts to declare a mistrial because the randomly selected jury pool did not include Blacks(less than 1% of the population in the area)or the hearing impaired. Motions for a mistrial were denied and the 11 woman 1 man jury convicted her of murder.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 9:17:04 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Red Badger

Oh, according the leftist meta narrative, all white men are guilty of abusing the Blacks, mentally if not in actuallity. All whites have created a system which is designed to prop up the whites and hold down the Blacks, so they (the leftists) think that the court system should be bent in favor of the Blacks to make up for past injustices.

Get it? No, I didn’t think that you would because it doesn’t make any real sense, but that is what we are experiencing in case after case, all around the country. They are tearing the constitution apart and rebuilding it in the image of socialist Europe.


10 posted on 05/14/2007 9:37:28 AM PDT by Eva
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To: NonValueAdded

What you said; it cuts both ways.

Lawyers for medical lawsuits like inner-city juries. Will defendants be able to demand change of venue if this happens?

It is a problem, the divide between city and suburban courts. Maybe the thing to do is merge the city courts into the surrounding counties?

I know, not likely.


11 posted on 05/14/2007 10:01:52 AM PDT by tsomer
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Here’s an interesting thought ... declare that justice is truly blind and that there is no relief to be had from complaining about the demographics of the jury pool. Commit the crime in an area where you are a minority (black, white, male, female, martian ...), and your fate will rest in the hands of your “peers” from that locale. Go forth and sin no more!


12 posted on 05/14/2007 11:03:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded
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To: Red Badger
What about Asians and Latinos and Indians?

Race isn't the only demographic, though it is in this case.

What about too few Muslims? They see things differently since the koran instructs them. And of course, that leads to a slippery slope even quicker.

13 posted on 05/14/2007 1:41:30 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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Or what about gay defendants? Will we have to find an all gay jury? Deliberations might take weeks, months even...........


14 posted on 05/14/2007 1:49:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: AmericaOutloud

Just drop the word “Case” and you’ve got something!


15 posted on 05/14/2007 1:53:33 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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