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To: Prokopton
The drug companies will raise the prices to the socialist until they reach parody with the non-socialist countries, like ours.

Except that the state won't allow them to raise the prices. That's how this whole problem got started in the first place. That's what a price control is.

Socialism, which you apparently lean towards, is when the government tells the citizens what they have to do, such as where and for what price they must buy a product

Socialism tells manufacturers what they can charge for a product. You keep forgetting it's the other countries who are demanding this of American businesses. There are many reasons for not allowing the re-importation of drugs. Price controls is just one of many.

Personally, I'm for freedom. It's not my, or my governments, responsibility to assist the pharmaceutical companies by restricting free trade

Free trade? There is no free trade with pharmaceuticals in Canada. The only entity that can negotiate drug prices is the Canadian government. How do you get free trade from a false economy?

You obviously are against free markets, i.e. markets that are open for anyone to find the best deal, wherever that might be.

A free market would exist where the supplier can charge what the market will bear for his product. Tell me how that exists in a price controlled market.

Their system only works because they are aided and abetted by the dupes in this Country.

So what would you do about it? What's your solution for getting these freeloaders to begin paying their fair share? Is it to allow the re-importation of their drugs, at the government mandated price, so that we can also be a party to removing the profit motive from an essential industry? What will you tell your children when therd are no promising new drugs to treat their afflictions? What will you tell them as you say goodbye because that new class of antibiotics never made it to market to treat the resistant bugs?

Without the profit motive there is no innovation. Is it their duty to the state to produce life saving therapies? Eh, comrade?

I suppose you're against trade with China and Walmart too and that we are all supposed to wring our hands over the low prices brought about by "slave labor".

I never knew slaves earned wages. What government is telling Wal-Mart what they can charge for their products?

I don't know if you're a Democrat or not but you are certainly no conservative

You don't know much so that's not surprising. Do you have a bumper sticker on your car that says "Drugs for people not for profit"? That's how I usually tell who is conservative and who is not.

26 posted on 05/14/2007 11:42:36 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

If you want me to buy my scripts in the US, then you can pay me the 2/3rds difference.


28 posted on 05/14/2007 12:07:49 PM PDT by Petruchio (Single, Available, Easy)
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To: Mase
Except that the state won't allow them to raise the prices

So now you're telling me that Canada is forcing the pharmaceutical companies to sell to them at a low price? No. The Canadian government is negotiating prices with the companies. If the companies don't like the price they won't sell the drugs to them. The Canadian government has no power to deny the companies from raising their prices, they can only decline to purchase the product at a given price. The reason the companies agree to sell at a lower price to Canada is because they know US citizens are forced to subsidize them by not being allowed to buy the product at the lower price.

Free trade? There is no free trade with pharmaceuticals in Canada

I don't care whether the trade is free in Canada or not, I only wan't to be allowed to trade freely as a US citizen.

A free market would exist where the supplier can charge what the market will bear for his product. Tell me how that exists in a price controlled market.

The pharmaceutical companies are not under the control of the Canadian government. If they don't want to sell Canada drugs, at any price, they don't have to. The companies are free to charge whatever they want and the Canadians are free to buy the drugs or not.

So what would you do about it? What's your solution for getting these freeloaders to begin paying their fair share? Is it to allow the re-importation of their drugs, at the government mandated price, so that we can also be a party to removing the profit motive from an essential industry?

What kind of logic is that? If we could buy the drugs at the Canadian price the companies would have to raise this price. The Canadians would pay the higher price because they need the drugs. We would be paying a lower price than we do now albeit higher than the Canadians do now. The companies know how to make a profit with one country paying a higher price than others or with all countries paying the same price.

The crux of this matter is that some, like you, think it perfectly alright for the US government to enforce policies that require it's citizens to pay more for needed drugs because we must insure profits for pharmaceutical companies and research funds for pharmaceutical companies. Profits and research are great but they should come from our citizens freely trading not from government controls. When we can freely trade, drug prices for our citizens will be competitive with drug prices for citizens of other countries. It's incredible to me that you are claiming we can't compete on drug prices because of the advantages that socialist countries have. They have no advantages. Their drug prices are cheaper not because their governments control the prices but because US policies insure that the companies do not have to compete for US drug sales and therefore can gouge the US customers.

This entire scheme is anti-capitalist and anti-American.

30 posted on 05/14/2007 12:25:44 PM PDT by Prokopton
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