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Could schools benefit from teacher-staff militias?
Amarillo.com (Texas) ^ | 5/14/07 | David Horsley

Posted on 05/14/2007 10:28:53 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

In the weeks since the Virginia Tech shootings, I doubt there's a classroom teacher in America who hasn't wondered privately, "What would I have done? Could I have saved my students from becoming murder victims?" The sound of gunshots ringing in a school hallway surely would chill the blood. But even with chilled blood, a teacher needs to take action. What should that action be? I've been giving this a lot of thought lately.

All across the country, schools are hosting meetings to discuss the "active shooter" scenario. Recently I took part in one such discussion, and, informative (if somewhat surreal) as the meeting was, I came away with more questions than answers.

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1 posted on 05/14/2007 10:28:55 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Looks like an interesting article but registration required.


2 posted on 05/14/2007 10:32:24 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Ooh! Ooh! Teacher! I know the answer! I know the answer!

It is yes. Armed teachers could protect schools against crazies.


3 posted on 05/14/2007 10:33:38 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

We are your new hall monitors

4 posted on 05/14/2007 10:34:56 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: beltfed308

“Looks like an interesting article but registration required.”

Make something up. I always do. Just one tip. Your birthday has to be *after* 1901. 1902 worked for me.


5 posted on 05/14/2007 10:35:01 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
FYI -

I am an ex-Special Forces officer (with time in Afghanistan) and want to help “harden” my local schools (I have 3 kids) from a Va Tech or Beslan type of attack. I am working with the local police.

Please keep me informed on any progress you make.

Regards,

2banana

6 posted on 05/14/2007 10:36:01 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I attended numerous schools growing up and can say quite definitely that some of my teachers should not have been issued drivers licenses much less weapons.
7 posted on 05/14/2007 10:36:09 AM PDT by kinoxi
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let me get this straight.....we have an leftist group with untold influence on our children, untold influence on the politics and thus the courts, and untold holier than I attitude and a "we know better than you peasant workers" attitude, and these are the people we want to be carrying guns?

what I see is the rest of us will have our guns taken from us but the leftist teachers will be allowed to carry them since they are so "special"...

baloney...

many good teachers but lets face the fact that many of them are lunatics, including the lunatic who joked about "hanging " Bush.....

8 posted on 05/14/2007 10:36:36 AM PDT by cherry
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In the aftermath of V-Tech, I was talking with some of my fellow law students at a large Northeastern public university. The group consensus was that allowing college students in general to carry firearms on campus was probably a bad idea, given the general immaturity of college kids. What was interesting, however, was that when I floated the idea of allowing any faculty member or student who held a carry permit to carry on campus after registering and advising the University Police, I heard no objections - not even from the most liberal law students.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 10:41:48 AM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: kinoxi

However, if you have 2 or 3 anonymous teachers / administrators per school building who pass some type of psycological test every 2 years, you could have them armed or at least have a gun locked away in a safe somewhere in their room. You don’t even need lethal bullets, just something to stop some nut case from killing dozens waiting for the cops to show up.

As it is now, these wackos know there is no one armed who can stop the shooting— at least until the police show up.


10 posted on 05/14/2007 10:42:56 AM PDT by kailbo
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I see your point, and agree. They will attack another school after the ‘success’ at Beslan.
11 posted on 05/14/2007 10:45:48 AM PDT by kinoxi
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Oh....let's not be hasty. I'm fine with teachers carrying guns....just so long as they're not loaded.

These are the same schools that think teachers who can't teach kids to read, are eminently qualified to teach them about sex.

12 posted on 05/14/2007 10:46:56 AM PDT by wbill
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All it would take is for it to be generally known that any employees (teachers or administrators or custodians) who already have a carry permit from the state, would be allowed to carry on campus.

The idea is to keep the malefactors guessing. If they don't know who or how many people may be carrying, they will seek a softer target.

As it is they're guaranteed an open field of fire until the police show up. That's why the VT shooter chained shut the doors -- he knew he didn't face any threat from inside the buildings. He may have been an evil bastard, but he planned his assault intelligently . . . not knowing who was carrying might have caused him to abandon his plan.

13 posted on 05/14/2007 10:48:04 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: kiriath_jearim

Do you ever have a moment when your convictions bump up against your better judgement?

I believe in the 2nd ammendment and the larger right to self defense.

But darnit, I feel uncomfortable with the average public school teacher having a gun... I’d just about trust the janitors and students more with guns.


14 posted on 05/14/2007 10:50:13 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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There are very few teachers who could perform this function in many schools, I’ll agree. The majority of teachers in today’s schools are not good candidates for taking any sort of direct action.

Sad, but true.

Still, finding and training the one or two people in a building that have the proper competence and outlook would serve as a deterrent.


15 posted on 05/14/2007 10:50:30 AM PDT by NVDave
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My brother is a teacher and has suggested this to his school. I think every school and business should have a few employees as the tactical response team. I’ve written up a proposal for my company but I’m afraid to present it. Might go up too far against the PC culture.


16 posted on 05/14/2007 10:50:59 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: 2banana
and want to help “harden” my local schools (I have 3 kids) from a Va Tech or Beslan type of attack.

Two steps:
1)own guns
2)homeschool
17 posted on 05/14/2007 10:51:38 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: NVDave

>>There are very few teachers who could perform this function in many schools, I’ll agree. The majority of teachers in today’s schools are not good candidates for taking any sort of direct action.

Sad, but true.

Still, finding and training the one or two people in a building that have the proper competence and outlook would serve as a deterrent.<<

That’s a much better approach. For example airline pilots often have a military background but we don’t just hand them a gun as they get on the plane. To carry a gun they have to be certified and trained.


18 posted on 05/14/2007 10:56:22 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: beltfed308

It works in Israel. Armed guards on El Al airline flights seems to work too.

But let’s just put up gun-free signs and sing kumbaya instead.


19 posted on 05/14/2007 10:56:57 AM PDT by GuineaRabbit
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To: kiriath_jearim

Damn I am proud to be from Texas.


20 posted on 05/14/2007 10:59:26 AM PDT by SF Republican
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