[kinoxi]

Toyota’s been exaggerating (lying) about gas mileage and horsepower for years now. They are the worst offender but it sells vehicles.

[P-40]

You have to read the assumptions behind the mileage figures and drive according to those assumptions. Buyers tend to do neither.

[DeFault User]

Strange, we have an ‘07 Civic that gets the 30/40/33 previously advertised, no correction needed.

[Oberon]

Wow. VW had a diesel Golf that beat the pants off these numbers back in 1985.

[TZolf]

Toyota had nothing to do with the old numbers, it was the old EPA testing guidelines. EPA rated mileage testing is standard for all manufacturers, so that they all use the same testing guidelines. The old guidelines weren’t very realistic, however, leading to inflated numbers over what most drivers would normally see.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I don’t know, the Toyota numbers dropped by the same percentage as the pontiac numbers, and less than the Hummer numbers (as a percentage).

The next Prius numbers match what I get in real-world driving. I’m currently sitting at 460 miles driven on my last tank of gas, and expect to put about 10 gallons into the car.

[VRWCmember]

My 2005 Camry gets about 26.5 mpg combined city and hwy driving. On the couple of times that I drove pretty much exclusively hwy for a full tank of gas the mileage was about 32.5 mpg. I have maintained a log of my miles and fuel usage for the two years that I have had the car, and the lowest fuel economy I got was 23.2 mpg, while the highest was one of the aforementioned hwy trips with 32.6 mpg.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

We better hurry up and buy one of these cars before they lower the mileage... [/sarcasm]

[BurbankKarl]

Wired is Tired

[dennisw]

BTTTT

[miliantnutcase]

Isn’t Toyota the Mnfr. who measures bhp by stripping the serpentine off the engine? I wonder how many get away with this.

[commonguymd]

My F250 6.0 turbo diesel with the full banks package gets 25 on the highway and 20 in the city.

That is a lot of tonnage moving down the road on the relative cheap. If I want to smoke the tires and go from 20 to 60 in a blink I can, and the more I lay on it the better the fuel efficiency. I hate it when a slow accelerating vehicle like a Prius gets in my way.

[TChris]

I think too many people completely misunderstand the whole purpose of the EPA estimated mileage numbers. They are not intended to be an accurate prediction of the mileage you will get with your vehicle in your circumstances.

The purpose of a standardized estimate is to allow meaningful comparison of one item to another. Vehicles are tested with the same parameters in order to make it an "apples-to-apples" comparison. With EPA estimates, you can accurately predict that a Honda Civic will get much better fuel economy, all else being equal, than a Hummer H2. You cannot predict that you will get 42 MPG (or whatever it is) just because that's the EPA estimate.

The EPA estimates have always come with a disclaimer which explains that your actual mileage may vary. That's because the EPA has no way of knowing what speed you will drive at, what pressure you will maintain your tires at, what altitude you will drive at, how often you will get your oil changed and your air filter checked, etc. There are lots of variables affecting fuel economy.

Breathless accusations of some kind of eeeeevil conspiracy are for drama queens who have nothing important to do. The EPA estimates were never any such conspiracy, but a standardized estimate meant for a more intelligent and less paranoid public.

[gbs]

OR you can buy a VW Jetta Diesel that gets 40 to 45mpg and has no batteries to pollute(mining) and replace every 7 to 10 years. And the diesel will get an easy 300,000 mile life on the engine. Plus it’s sporty and fast. I really think it’s a NO BRAINER choice. But the American consumer doesn’t think diesel, AND diesel is now cheaper than regular unleaded gas. Strange world!!