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To: cicero2k
I heard this morning that the average temp in/at Antarctica is -30.

Now, for any ice to melt there has to be a 62 degree increase in temperature for a hell of a lot longer than a year. It would seem to me that any melting temperature would probably have to be even higher to overcome any ambient air temperature (without wind).

If there is wind, an even higher temp would have to be reached and maintained for any signifigant melting to occur.

I'm no climatologist, and I don't even play one on the internet ... but I did pay attention in 6th grade science class.

10 posted on 05/15/2007 3:41:31 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf
Geothermal?
11 posted on 05/15/2007 3:45:13 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("Please insert witty tag-line here")
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To: knarf

Thank you. I’ve been saying this for years. WTF difference is one degree going to make at the poles, if it’s already minus 30. Logically it would take a global temp increase of about a hundred degrees to melt them completely. Amazing how there have never been glaciers that cracked and broke off in all of the earth’s history.


15 posted on 05/15/2007 3:59:45 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: knarf
If there is wind, an even higher temp would have to be reached and maintained for any signifigant melting to occur.

Not true. Wind will evaporate ice even if that wind is very cold. The air merely has to have low humidity.

I know some guys who dug a C-130 out of the ice in Antarctica. They used things much like leaf blowers as excavating equipment.

18 posted on 05/15/2007 4:11:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: knarf
Now, for any ice to melt there has to be a 62 degree increase in temperature for a hell of a lot longer than a year.

You weren't paying attention in 6th grade science class. It's called "sublimation". Sun shining on ice can convert from solid ice to water vapor. A little wind carries it off so the small vapor pressure keeps converting from solid to vapor. It is common to observe snow/ice with local melting due to dark soil or plants collecting sunlight even when the ambient temperature is well below freezing.

Still, the premise that global warming is the consequence of human activity is BS. There are no humans on other planets in our solar systen, yet they are warming as well. There is a common astro-physical phenomenon driving the change. It isn't human activity.

37 posted on 05/15/2007 4:48:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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