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To: GMMAC

Abortion - Abortion - Abortion.....

Every 4 years - the GOP corners itself while the world explodes around us.

While rightly noble in it’s cause - the pro-life movement must allow itself some perspective.

I just cannot fathom why we focus so much attention (every 4 years) on abortion.

Why is this issue not pursued with the same urgency 24/7/365 at the state and local level like it is with our Presidential elections. I rarely see abortion as the #1 issue for local and state officials - and that’s where it should be driven home.

Also - does anyone notice that GOP men seem more engaged on this issue than GOP woman? Seems that way to me.


7 posted on 05/16/2007 6:20:55 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
does anyone notice that GOP men seem more engaged on this issue than GOP woman? Seems that way to me.

must just be the women you hang around. i see absolutely no disparity between the genders with respect to life issues, but then i do run with a pro-life crowd. : )

8 posted on 05/16/2007 6:23:44 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Jake The Goose

“Also - does anyone notice that GOP men seem more engaged on this issue than GOP woman? Seems that way to me.”

Are you saying you have “issues”? :-)


9 posted on 05/16/2007 6:27:43 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: Jake The Goose
Abortion is the issue that won’t go away. That’s because it encapsulates the difference between liberalism and traditional Americanism. It points up what can happen when too much power to shifted to the judiciary, and the removal of many issues from the political arena.It marks a clear divided between the elite in this social, which is 80% liberal and the rest of us, who are 80% nonliberal, whether conservative or libertarian. Libertarians made not care about social issues, but they recongnize that the liberal establishment that has replaced the Protestant establishment is ever bit as determined to use government to make us conform to their morality and its attendent agenda. That means suppression of free speech as well as religion.
14 posted on 05/16/2007 6:32:57 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Jake The Goose
Also - does anyone notice that GOP men seem more engaged on this issue than GOP woman? Seems that way to me.

The GOP women are too busy raising the next generation of conservatives.

The only reason it gets magnified is because of people like Giuliani who want the nomination given to him by pro-lifers. Now he may have decided that with a large field he may not need them. He's wrong.

Every 4 years - the GOP corners itself while the world explodes around us.

The world IS exploding around . . . over a million children killed every year in the U.S. alone, 50 million world-wide.

Republicans have been on notice for 25 years now, if they have big aspirations in this party, they should be for lower taxes, states' rights, capital pubishment for the guilty, gun rights, pro-life . . . other issues allow room for nuance. Giuliani will only join the aborted candidacies of Arlen Spector and Lowell Weicker. Heck, he couldn't even take the heat to run against Hillary for Senate in NY, THAT's when he might have been useful.
27 posted on 05/16/2007 6:44:06 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Jake The Goose
Think the issue with Rudy, not unlike with Bill Clinton, has now become much more one of his subsequent lying & attempting to play the public for fools.

Had he initially taken the position on several issues:
Although my personal views are somewhat at variance with the conservative mainstream, I respect the supremacy of the Constitution and will, accordingly & properly, defer to the wishes of individual States with respect to these areas of public policy."
At least then, his personal credibility & integrity wouldn't now be nearly so much in question.

As the old saying goes, 'it's tough to take back a kick in the nut$'.
30 posted on 05/16/2007 6:45:11 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Jake The Goose

Well said...abortion will be the eventual fall of the republican party.


34 posted on 05/16/2007 6:47:46 AM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: Jake The Goose

Not this GOP woman. If the information is available it is a consideration every time I vote no matter how small the candidate. In almost every case, if they aren’t pro-life, or aren’t open to becoming pro-life, I don’t vote for them.


37 posted on 05/16/2007 6:51:30 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney for President '08)
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To: Jake The Goose

“Giuliani Up, McCain Up, Romney Down, and Ron Paul Out — Way Out”

Check out Byron York’s take at NRO.


71 posted on 05/16/2007 7:33:31 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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