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To: betty boop; RightWhale; Coyoteman
Everything we attribute to creativity is from sensation, which is all from Nature....

I thought Coytoteman said science doesn't DO philosophy? You ever seen a drag queen? Underneath the women's underwear, and the garish make up....., well, you don't have to have TACTILE EXPERIENCE to know what you know, which is that it is just a man who is confused.

So the "scientist" who makes comprehensive statements about the nature of reality, even to the extent of formulating "laws" of science. Here we are ensconced in a tiny corner of our galaxy, Which is just one in billions, and these people pompously assert that "this is the nature of matter/energy...." and "this is how matter/energy reacts under these circumstances"???????

He might claim to be doing science, but he is just a drag queen philosopher who is too confused to know it.

Without a whole gaggle of philosophical assumptions about the universe, the scientist cannot make a statement more comprehensive than "I think this just happened." (Even that statement is philosophically derived, but we will let him pass). A scientist can no more discover the nature of things than a child counting drops out of the faucet can discover the properties of water. The very BEST you can say about a scientist with no philosophical base is that he is a stastician.

384 posted on 06/11/2007 6:44:12 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Libertarianism: u can run your life better than government can, and should be left alone to do it)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Well you put science in its place!


386 posted on 06/11/2007 8:18:14 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
The very BEST you can say about a scientist with no philosophical base is that he is a stastician

Stastician is it? You know that stastics is the only way they have to find meaning in the soft sciences.

387 posted on 06/11/2007 8:18:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp; Alamo-Girl; ahayes; hosepipe
Without a whole gaggle of philosophical assumptions about the universe, the scientist cannot make a statement more comprehensive than "I think this just happened."

Great observation, DreamsofPolycarp! Oh, so true....

The very first philosophical assumption a scientist makes is the the universe is intelligible, and therefore is completely, exhaustively knowable by man. Another is the assumption of the universal validity of physical laws. A third very common philosophical assumption is that the universe is made of "building blocks" called matter, and nothing else (i.e., the philosophical doctrine of materialism).

Not one of these assumptions is based on direct observation and experiment.

Scientists "do philosophy" every day, just to do their jobs! They just seem not to realize it....

411 posted on 06/11/2007 10:18:37 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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