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1 posted on 05/16/2007 7:41:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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"It is fair to say that a majority of gun crime is committed with illegal guns," Harris said.

What. An. Idiot. San Francisco is living proof that Darwin was wrong.

25 posted on 05/16/2007 8:30:30 PM PDT by hsalaw
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Mayor Newsom hopes to extend the ban to public housing complexes

How very compassionate of the city that shouts from every mountaintop about how compassionate it is....job one is to disarm the poor.

Take away the guns from those who need the most protection because they are the most likely to be victimized by crime, the poor and the minorities.

Hitler and Goebbels would be so very, very proud.

26 posted on 05/16/2007 8:30:55 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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San Francisco is going in the dumper sooooo fast. I could care less what they do. Let them live with a gun free zone, and in the squaller that they have made for themselves. More people will die and more crime will take the "city" apart. I don't care!

You ask, "have you ever been there"? Yes, I have. I didn't find it so romantic, I didn't find it terribly exciting, nor did I find it that scenic. I found it offensive, and hard to get around!

Strong statement, yes. But, it is what I perceive...sorry.

27 posted on 05/16/2007 8:50:26 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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“Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn’t mean that we’re not going to walk into that home and check to see if you’re being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs,”

You have got to be f**kin kidding me. A politician can actually make a statement like this in this country without fear of any repercussion from their constituents?

SF is an embarrassment! All our brave fighting men who died to protect our freedoms! The citizens of San Francisco just lay down and give it away!

29 posted on 05/16/2007 9:03:58 PM PDT by vlad335
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One part of the measure bans guns from any city owned property, not only in buildings like city hall, but also city parks. Guns are already banned at some city buildings, such as schools

I'm amazed that the gun prohibition in or on city owned property are not already on SF's lawbooks. Even here in relatively gun-friendly GA I can't legally carry my concealed (or unconcealed) weapon on state, county, or city property even though I have a valid CCW permit.

33 posted on 05/16/2007 9:21:26 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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Sounds like Rudy Giuliani.


34 posted on 05/16/2007 9:26:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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The proposed legislation would also require people who commit crimes with guns to sign up with the police department, then probation officers could keep better tabs on them.

What, pray tell, would be wrong with just locking violent armed criminals up for life, or at least for very long periods of time, as was once common practice in America? A convicted serial killer on parole could report to his probation officer every day of the week and still kill people every night without the officer knowing anything about it. Taking away his right to possess guns is about as effective at keeping him disarmed as is me telling my 4 year-old grandson that he can't jump up and down on the new sofa.

35 posted on 05/16/2007 9:30:43 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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""Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said. "

No-knock, no-knock...

36 posted on 05/16/2007 9:39:30 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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“Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn’t mean that we’re not going to walk into that home and check to see if you’re being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs,” District Attorney Kamala Harris said.
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I think I saw her on TV one time,,,hard to remember...


37 posted on 05/16/2007 9:39:52 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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Another aspect would require all gun owners to store their arms with a trigger lock or in a lock box. Authorities say lock boxes would help to keep legal guns from being stolen and then later used illegally.

Shouldn't "authorities" also say that having your gun locked away in a lockbox is a good way to make sure that it isn't of any use as protection from criminal home invaders who usually don't call before coming over to visit?

No trigger locks or lockboxes are in use in my house. I would probably have trouble dropping off to sleep at night without my trusty S&W .38 Special lying at ready on my bedside table, and I don't even live in a big crime-ridden city like SF.

38 posted on 05/16/2007 9:41:08 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

Say Hello to My Little Friend - Al Pacino - Scarface

39 posted on 05/16/2007 9:45:34 PM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...)
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"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

I wonder if the DA has ever taken notice of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, HOMES, papers, and effects, against unreasonable search and seizures, shall not be violated and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the the place to be searched , and persons or things to be seized."

To be sure, the amendment allows the proper authorities to search a person's house or other property, but only based on probable cause. I don't believe the amendment's authors would consider that the mere unfounded suspicion of a cop or DA that a resident may possibly be improperly storing a firearm in his or her own home constitutes "probable cause" for issuing a search warrant.

Or perhaps in the liberal's Shangrila known as SF, the 4th Amendment has been repealed by the omnipotent SF mayor and his arrogant toadies. In that case it may be time for that courageous judge who previously threw out SF's gun ban law to once again remind the control freaks in SF's government that their bailiwick is still a part of the USA no matter how much they hate that tie to the real world, and that the Constitution is still the supreme law of the land, no matter how much they may hate it.

41 posted on 05/16/2007 10:10:23 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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Liberals: Creating New Victim Massacre Zones. Film at 11.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

43 posted on 05/16/2007 10:18:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I say let SF continue this nonsense, while productive citizens continue to leave town. It will be intersting to see how an entire society of “useless eaters” prevails on their own.


45 posted on 05/16/2007 10:23:52 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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"It is fair to say that a majority of gun crime is committed with illegal guns," Harris said.

It is even more fair to say that Mr. Harris is stating the obvious as though it has recently been handed down from on high to him personally.

Here's a clue Mr. Harris, since you obviously don't have one of your own. Any gun used by a criminal to commit a crime is an illegal gun under both federal and CA law, and has been an illegal gun ever since it came into the criminal's possession. Mr. Harris, do you actually believe that a criminal who intends to commit a violent crime with a gun is the least bit concerned that he would also be breaking a law against possessing a gun if he goes ahead with his planned crime? If you're really that short on common sense, I would like to interest you in some exceptional bargains in penny stocks that I happen to have for sale.

46 posted on 05/16/2007 10:24:33 PM PDT by epow ( Don't complain that thorns grow on rose bushes, thank God that roses grow on thorn bushes)
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Fools on a fool’s errand.


47 posted on 05/16/2007 10:29:34 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom announced a new round of gun control measures

What is he going to do - keep his pants buttoned up?

48 posted on 05/16/2007 11:15:19 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," District Attorney Kamala Harris said.

Really...You know what, pretty much anywhere else in this country, that would be considered a home invasion...Subject to serious ramifications, and action from a home owner...

But you keep thinking that Ms. Harris...Why don't you lead these little spot checks...



50 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:25 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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The idea is to remind legal gun owners how to behave.

Seems to me that the idea would be to remind criminals how to behave.....oh, I forgot; in San Francisco, if you own a gun you must be a criminal.

52 posted on 05/17/2007 5:17:27 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
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All this tap dancing to avoid stating that the relatively small remaining "gun problem" in San Francisco is almost 100% a "young urban black male" problem that could be solved by a more vigorously colorblind policing of the Western Addition and Bayview/Hunters Point.

And yet when stayed late after work to go to a concert in San Francisco last Friday night, I saw many of these very same "young urban black males" openly selling drugs at Hallidie Plaza near 5th and Market - the very heart of the city - without a cop anywhere in sight.

So really, Mr. Mayor and Ms. D.A., addressing crime problems in San Francisco is going to require recognition that the stereotypical white guy out in the Sunset with a rifle locked up in his closet really isn't your top priority - even if there is a 1% chance that he might get angry some day and shoot his wife...and later the Mayor and the D.A. Your prime suspects are all standing right out in the open, and with a little wisely directed effort, as Howard Hunter (James B. Sikking) once said on "Hill Street Blues", you can accomplish more urban renewal in fifteen minutes than the Feds have done in twenty years.

This may require telling some "community activists" and part of your political base to go pound sand. But you'll feel much better for it, in the long run. ;)

53 posted on 05/17/2007 5:40:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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