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The question after the election disaster of 2008 will be, which betrayal did in the GOP?
May 17, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/17/2007 3:07:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

I hope this leads to the death of “compassionate conservatism”, also. All of the above!


61 posted on 05/17/2007 3:21:58 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Jim Robinson

Get some help. Seriously.


62 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:04 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: padre35

“The Republicans ahave completely lost touch with us, the base, the people who vote in primaries and care about those issues, they no longer listen to us.

“When was the last time a Republican leader actually addressed us in any sort of meaningful way?

“They, almost the whole of Republicans on the Hill, treat us like we are invisible.”

Not to mention that suddenly-spineless simp in the Oval Office. What use is Christian compassion, George, when it blinds you to a very real DANGER?


63 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:11 PM PDT by jakewashere (politically incorrect and proud of it since 1982)
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To: mickie
Seems like he is more than willing to hand the job over to hillary.

As we move forward, I think you will see that neither Hillary or Obama are serious threats. The biggest threat will be John Edwards.

64 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:42 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Clintonfatigued

No.

The GOP heard plenty on immigration last year. It was part of what resulted in some voters staying home, and it was a cause of a true fury that many candidates heard about at the polls last year. Our Congressman, Dean Heller, has heard an earful on this issue, starting from last summer and clear through his taking office this spring.

After all the fury directed at the GOP last year on this issue, we now have a piece of legislation coming out of this recent “compromise” that shows the GOP didn’t get the message at all.

The GOP still controls over 40 votes in the Senate. They didn’t have to agree to anything. They could have stood up for what they wanted and said “unless we get X, the bill won’t get a vote” and gotten it.

Instead, McCain/Kyl just rolled over and sold us out. There was no attempt to play hardball to get what we wanted. None.

These actions will guarantee that the GOP becomes a minority party for a long time, and the demographics of the immigration tidal wave guarantee that the GOP will eventually go the way of the Whigs.


65 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:44 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Jim Robinson
14 through 17, which led to 1 through 13.

Although, 16 should read lack of testicles rather than loss of same.

66 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:50 PM PDT by tgslTakoma (BS: Now THAT'S Activism, baby !!)
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To: Jim Robinson

They failed on all but #1.

If the Republicans had succeeded on all of the others, America would have forgiven them on the war.


67 posted on 05/17/2007 3:23:30 PM PDT by fishtank ("War is cruelty...The crueler it is the sooner it will be over." William Tecumseh Sherman)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the Republican party is at war with it’s own base, what happens to it if it succeeds? More importantly, what happens to us?


68 posted on 05/17/2007 3:24:01 PM PDT by kcar (Victory is the best exit strategy.)
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To: Covenantor
Dennis Miller said it was Roe. As in ROE - Rules of Engagement.

Bush hasn't let the military finish the war.

69 posted on 05/17/2007 3:24:10 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Jim Robinson

Is this a new way to freep a poll? Only members need apply.

I check “Most of the above”.


70 posted on 05/17/2007 3:24:12 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Jim Robinson

19

This would be a great poll question...


71 posted on 05/17/2007 3:24:38 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Covenantor
I agree with Covenantor that it is 19 less 1. However, a majority of Americans view the war as a failure because of the unattacked dishonesty of the MSM. If the early losses against the Germans and Japanese had been published with the same anti-American fervor as the smaller losses now, we would have quit WW II and left Europe to the Germans and the Pacific Rim to the Japanese.

My hopes for a Republican victory (to save the Supreme Court) rest on the fact -- which can be communicated -- that the Pelosi, Reid, Clinton Democrats are worse on all the items of your list, than the Republicans. That's a slim reed, but not nonexistent.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "Jeffrey Has Escaped, and Other Tales of Divorce"

72 posted on 05/17/2007 3:24:56 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
All of the above... except remove #1 and add #3 twice
73 posted on 05/17/2007 3:25:03 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Al-Qaidacrats =A new political party combining the anti American left and the anti Semite right)
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To: Jim Robinson

It will be blamed on conservative Christians as the whacko nut jobs.


74 posted on 05/17/2007 3:25:32 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhymes, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: jakewashere
After what happened this morning on amnesty? Hell, no. The GOP is going to lose and lose big, because it goddam well DESERVES to. The only problem is that when they fall, they’ll take the rest of us with them.

Did any of the 'immigration warriors' expect anything different when they stayed home from the polls in 2006 and allowed so many Repubs. to lose to a Democrat, when they knew the Democrat party is so hot to trot for amnesty? Did they expect the remaining Repubs. to have any sort of spine on the issue when they figured the voters wouldn't support them anyway?

75 posted on 05/17/2007 3:25:34 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Calvin Locke
Bush Liberal Congress hasn't let the military finish the war.
76 posted on 05/17/2007 3:25:43 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Jim Robinson
The GOP in power from 1994-2006 was a coalition, just like the segregationist-socialist-minority coalition which ran the country from 1932-1994.

Like the socialist-segregationist-minority coalition, the members of the GOP coalition can't stand each other.

Unlike Democrats, however, the members of the late GOP coalition are too stupid to pretend.

77 posted on 05/17/2007 3:26:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s easy: 2, 5, 6, and 10!


78 posted on 05/17/2007 3:26:24 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Of all that I have accomplished, the thing that I am proudest of is that I have a good heart. ~Oprah)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s too early for this defeatist post.

As a list of the problems we face in ‘08 and must do some hard thinking about ASAP, it’s excellent.

But don’t be predicting inevitable doom. It’s unilateral disarmament, even though your intention is otherwise.


79 posted on 05/17/2007 3:26:46 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: All
So, um, just what DOES Duncan Hunter have to say, or Tom Tancredo, or whomever else is supposed to be speaking up — anything today in response — something?

I know this issue is going to make for a very uncomfortable weekend in our house. I’m going to have to listen to hour after hour, day after day of hubby wailing over this sell-out and the frustrating thing is that I can’t do one single thing to stop it. Kit Bond voted against it — I’m guessing Claire McCaskill did too, so what is there to do? In Missouri if a Republican and a Democrat can agree that it’s a loser, that’s something right there. In the final analysis, so what? Even if we decide to get rid of every single person in Congress, it will be law and that will be that.

80 posted on 05/17/2007 3:27:11 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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