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To: pgyanke
Nothing in the Catechism nor in what you have written suggests that we are to disobey just laws of a nation--especially regarding its sovereignty.

In no way am I suggesting that these people are not guilty of transgressing our law. By no means. They have certainly broken the law by circumventing the naturalization process. I'm saying that, by turning around and displacing twelve million people - many with children who are natural citizens of this country - we are breaking a much higher law that commands us to be compassionate to the poor, merciful to the stranger in our midst, and mindful that every person is imbued with the kind of dignity that can only come from God, and thus, should never be taken away.

If anyone on this site thinks I haven't agonized over my outrage at the blatant skirting of our laws versus the command of Christ to love others as the Father has loved me, they would be greatly mistaken. I don't believe in liberation theology. I don't believe this can be categorized as a question of liberation theology. This is about millions of innocent children who either stand to be separated from their families, or illegally compelled to accept deportation. This is about human decency. We live in, BY FAR (excuse the caps), the most blessed and smiled upon nation in the history of the world. God has blessed us with an abundance that is unprecedented. Are we really going to say "f' you" to all of these people now that we've absorbed them into our society? Are we really going to say to God, be merciful to us while we're deporting innocent children back to that squalorus, corrupt nation?

We shouldn't be worried about what will befall our great nation by letting these people stay. If God is truly Lord of the universe, we will be blessed a hundredfold for our compassion. Anyone who thinks otherswise doesn't understand God's mercy.

As for the borders, I'm not against using whatever measures are necessary to keep people from coming in. Walls, soldiers, whatever it takes. That's our right.

20 posted on 05/18/2007 6:24:11 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I sympathize with your position... but it starts from a false premise foisted on us by the SCOTUS. In the 1982, SCOTUS decided in Plyler v. Doe that illegal immigrants are "within the jurisdiction" of the states in which they reside. This has given us anchor babies.

However, regardless of the original intent of the amendment, it doesn't say "within", it says "subject to". This was to preclude the children of foreign diplomats, enemy forces, American Indians and those simply on holiday from gaining automatic citizenship of our country by happenstance of their location at birth.

This deliberate "misunderstanding" has given us the perversion we see now of pregnant illegals coming here close to their due date for the purpose of gaining their anchors. Now you, and others of the same reasoning, say they can't be deported because that would be tearing a family apart due to their dissimilar citizenship.

We are commanded to do unto others as we would have done unto us. Well...

1) I wouldn't illegally enter another country
2) I wouldn't break other laws of that country
3) I wouldn't break my own family apart regardless of our location and its desirability.

We do these families no great service in perpetuating the myth that they belong here simply by squatters' rights. The Church does them no favor in encouraging this. No, obviously, the favor done is when our government grants the next amnesty... they win. Doesn't make it moral, though.

23 posted on 05/18/2007 7:21:13 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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