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Rome-ward Bound: An Evangelical Converts to Catholicism and Everyone Remains Friendly
WSJ Opinion Journal Online ^ | May 18, 2007 | David M. Howard, Jr.

Posted on 05/18/2007 6:16:16 AM PDT by Reo

Last month, Francis Beckwith--president of the Evangelical Theological Society (ETS), noted evangelical philosopher, "God-blogger" and professor of church-state relations at Baylor University--was received into full communion with the Roman Catholic Church. Shortly after, he resigned his presidency and membership in ETS, sending shock waves through the religious blogosphere and parts of the evangelical community.

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A thoughtful presentation of an interesting journey; one my wife and I made some years ago.....
1 posted on 05/18/2007 6:16:20 AM PDT by Reo
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To: Reo

Welcome home!!


2 posted on 05/18/2007 6:25:25 AM PDT by CWW (Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
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To: Reo
These Catholics are not generally in sympathy with the theologically liberal wing of the American Catholic Church but are enthusiastic supporters of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI's emphasis on orthodox teaching and practice.

Sounds good to me. This article is just more proof evangelicals are not hatemongers, contrary to the idiocy purported by Democrats, liberals and the media.

3 posted on 05/18/2007 6:25:27 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: NYer

ping


4 posted on 05/18/2007 6:27:41 AM PDT by rogernz
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To: NYer

ping


5 posted on 05/18/2007 6:27:49 AM PDT by rogernz
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To: Reo

Welcome. It’s been happening alot these days. Good to see.


6 posted on 05/18/2007 6:29:06 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Reo

Yes, welcome home!


7 posted on 05/18/2007 6:29:36 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: SoFloFreeper

We crossed the Tiber a few years ago too. I heartily recommend it, a Christ-led journey. The influx of evangelicals brings a solid, Christ-centered, bunch into the Catholic Church. aaahhhh. Helps to remind the Catholic Bishops in America of what the Church really stands for.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 6:30:31 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Reo

If you are in the market for a Christian world view, as opposed to a navel view, your road will probably take you to Rome, Constantinople, or Geneva.

American fundamentalism is an awfully thin gruel. At its worst, it applies to only one point in time and space, the “sinner’s prayer” after an “altar call” at the front of the church.

In 1970, the “Jesus freaks” discovered and joyously proclaimed the artificiality of the temporal quarantine. God’s Presence could go with us through all of life.

A perspective I discovered in 1980, call it “Calvinism on steroids” smashed the spacial quarantine. God is interested in all of life, not just the “religious” part.


9 posted on 05/18/2007 6:33:21 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Reo

A journey I made myself about 25 years ago from the Lutheran Church. For anyone interested in hearing about the precepts and foundations of the Catholic Church I would highly recommend watching Fr. John Corapi on EWTN on Sunday evenings. His presentations are thoughtful, entertaining and very clear as to what the Church stands for.


10 posted on 05/18/2007 6:33:56 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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To: Reo

Well, the man is following his own conscience and that is as it should be. He hasn’t betrayed me. But I do think it shocking that his idea of the gospel is so flexible. And I wonder also how he can go from not worshipping Mary to now praying to her and bowing before her statues. How can he just give over his understanding of Scripture to the authority of Rome? Or does he plan on being a bad Catholic?


11 posted on 05/18/2007 6:35:00 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Reo

I got into the Catholic vs. Evangelical arguement a few years ago on here, and it wasn’t pretty.

I won’t go into that again, and I would encourage Evangelicals and Baptists to refrain from bashing Catholics, and Catholics from bashing us.

My personal experience is the opposite...starting as a catholic and movign to Baptist.

I know my next statement will embolden those ready to attack, but I will state my viewpoint since this it a fre to post site. But note, I won’t respond to attacks, and probably will not post another response in this thread.

Protestants had there origin in the Catholic Church and as the Catholic Church adjusts its theology to a point that is more acceptable to the reasons Protestants seperated from the Catholic CHurch, the more Portestants will find the Catholic Church acceptable.

However, Baptists, will be less likely to convert since most of the Baptist teaching on theology is diametrically oppoased to Catholic doctrine, and key to that is the independence of the local church body.


12 posted on 05/18/2007 6:52:33 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Ann Coulter is My Press Secretary)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"And I wonder also how he can go from not worshipping Mary to now praying to her and bowing before her statues. How can he just give over his understanding of Scripture to the authority of Rome? "

Actually, for me it's not worshipping Mary so much as asking for prayer....much as I would ask my own mother for intercessory prayer, or pray for my children and grandchildren. As for scriptural authenticity, the first part of the "Hail Mary" is pure scripture (Luke 1:42) and the rest is a request for intercession. It's a family thing, Ghost; a great, big, wonderful family thing.....

13 posted on 05/18/2007 6:55:20 AM PDT by Reo
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To: SoFloFreeper

This article is just more proof evangelicals are not hatemongers, contrary to the idiocy purported by Democrats, liberals and the media.

Yep and as a Catholic I have never been put down by Evangelicals here or truthfully anywhere. I don’t go to DU so I don’t know about there. Hopefully not too many Evangelicals there anyway. lol.


14 posted on 05/18/2007 6:57:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Catholics do not worship Mary. Catholics are not required to pray to her nor to bow before her statues. She is highly honored as the mother of Christ, an example of one who said “yes” to doing God’s will instead of her own, but she is not God, and we Catholics are well aware of that.

Catholics and other Orthodox Christians (in fact, about 3/4 of all Christians on earth) follow the ancient practice of praying to saints for intercession. The practice is completely optional and is not unlike an Evangelical Christian asking a friend, family member, church prayer group or pastor to pray for them. If one believes in the power of prayer, then the more prayers the better. Catholics also pray for each other and pray directly to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

I converted to Catholicism from a Protestant denomination many years ago. As my deeply faith-filled mother said, “It’s the same Jesus.”


15 posted on 05/18/2007 7:00:40 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
How can he just give over his understanding of Scripture to the authority of Rome?

By discovering that the successor of Peter has such authority.

-A8

16 posted on 05/18/2007 7:01:30 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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No you are not going to get away with that explanation just because most non-Catholics only know about "Hail Mary." I've read the other prayers. I have looked at the theology and history behind it. It is worship. At minimum you are saying Mary is omniscient and omnipresent in that she can hear everyone's prayers, even if the only Mary prayer you pray is your Hail Mary.

I am not going to discuss this more on this thread. I was just making a point about how I cannot understand how a person goes from one thing to the other.

17 posted on 05/18/2007 7:03:26 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: TomSmedley

Oh baloney. Most of the denominations have communities of the “faithful” and your term fundamentalism belies your bigotry. There will always be the “true spiritual church” and the liberal or false church—and the weeds grow right along side the good plants. Rome, Constantinopole, or Geneva can be as liberal and thin and ladened with “man’s doctrine” as the American fundamentalists. Those American fundamentalists have had a role to play in God’s kingdom just like the others.

It looks to me like Rome is not completely innocent when I look at the judgment that gets placed there at the end of time. All I can say is those who are returning to the Catholic church had better still place the bible and Jesus Christ before any man-inspired doctrine or they are worse off than they were before.


18 posted on 05/18/2007 7:06:43 AM PDT by applpie
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how he can go from not worsihpping Mary

Whatever.
19 posted on 05/18/2007 7:07:17 AM PDT by non-anonymous
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To: Reo

Let the religious wars begin.

We could have our own Sunni/Shi’a battelfield


20 posted on 05/18/2007 7:08:15 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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