Sorry, Mark, but no godless, communistic, animalistic, ideology is going to produce this kind of society:
Isaiah 58
6 Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of injustice, to undo the thongs of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover them, and not to hide yourself from your own kin?
8 Then your light shall break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up quickly; your vindicator shall go before you, the glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard.
9 Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer; you shall cry for help, and he will say, Here I am. If you remove the yoke from among you, the pointing of the finger, the speaking of evil,
10 if you offer your food to the hungry and satisfy the needs of the afflicted, then your light shall rise in the darkness and your gloom be like the noonday.
11 The LORD will guide you continually, and satisfy your needs in parched places, and make your bones strong; and you shall be like a watered garden, like a spring of water, whose waters never fail.
12 Your ancient ruins shall be rebuilt; you shall raise up the foundations of many generations; you shall be called the repairer of the breach, the restorer of streets to live in.
How many times do I have to say we need a moral society? When God brings people to a moral viewpoint it is great. I have no problem with the government reflecting the morality of the people that created it.
People have to bring morality to the table of self government. The government can not force people to be moral, once force comes into play, morals are gone in my opinion. People have to be good and obey the law because they want to.
Your attempted character assassination of what I am saying by linking it to some sort of "godless, communistic, animalistic, ideology" is just a lot of garbage. I was speaking in general terms that were inclusive of the part religion played in the development of our society. How many time can I say it? We need to be moral, and that includes respecting the rights and property of others. We need to realize that rights are merely concepts, rules of the game, and the game can be easily cheated. This is why the Founding Fathers said our rights were inherent, [God was crossed out and replaced with Creator.] and set up limits upon the government to try to prevent the government from ignoring our rights.
Just as people have to find it in their hearts to accept the Lord, they must find it in their hearts to want to live by the rules, to lead a moral life, not because they are forced or bribed to, but simply because they want to.
People doing the right thing simply because the want to, is one of the frameworks of a solid prosperous society, not the only framework.
Abortion is wrong because it does not respect the rights that we share with all people, I am including the little one in the womb as a person. These rights are never conferred upon the little guy, they are just recognized as being there by definition. You know, inherent.