One point that I keep trying to make is that it is the state and local governments, not the federal government, that are the problem in this. People complain about the Feds not deporting illegals - but how can they, when many of our biggest cities have laws preventing law enforcement, hospitals or schools from enquiring about immigration status or reporting it if it is not in order? Federal funding for “bilingual” miseducation has been massively reduced under Bush, yet individual states and municipalities have gone ahead and funded it anyway with local taxpayer dollars. Federal welfare dollars cannot be given to illegal immigrants; yet local government gets around this in any number of creative ways, mostly by never inquiring about immigration status. Voting regulations that do not demand ID or provide materials in languages other than English or permit non-English speakers to have “assistance” in voting are also local provisions.
So in many ways, I find the debate over federal law to be almost meaningless, simply because any law itself is going to be meaningless as long as states and municipalities can simply do what they want to thwart it. I sometimes find it ironic that Freepers, of all people, think the Federal government can wave a magic wand and everything will be alright.
This, of course, is directly the result of the Dem party, which sees this as a way of harvesting voters and works hard to keep its farm of captive immigrants. But except for one or two local initiatives I have read about recently, I have not seen anyone here complain about the level of government where these policies are actually happening.
I am in favor of a guest worker program, btw, because most Mexicans actually want to be able to legally go back to Mexico after they have earned some money here. But the state and local Dems have a vested interest in keeping them here, so regardless of what Congress does, I don’t think there will be any change.
The only reason the local governments are getting away with this is because the Fed's are letting them do so.
It is the responsiblity to make sure that the illegals don't get into America in the first place.
Those local areas are violating Federal law and are endanging national security.
So in many ways, I find the debate over federal law to be almost meaningless, simply because any law itself is going to be meaningless as long as states and municipalities can simply do what they want to thwart it. I sometimes find it ironic that Freepers, of all people, think the Federal government can wave a magic wand and everything will be alright.
They can do alot more than they are doing!
First, get control of the Border.
Second, get control of the student visa program.
The complaint by the Fed's is that they are short manpower and resources.
Alright, lets give them what they need, as we do our military and see what happens.
The local governments are not going to stand against the Federal government when it want something done that the majority of the people also want done.
This, of course, is directly the result of the Dem party, which sees this as a way of harvesting voters and works hard to keep its farm of captive immigrants. But except for one or two local initiatives I have read about recently, I have not seen anyone here complain about the level of government where these policies are actually happening.
I don't think anyone on this forum gives a free pass to those cities that are giving haven to the illegals.
However, the Federal government could end that very quickly by simply going in and taking them and deporting them.
The local governments could do nothing to stop that.
I am in favor of a guest worker program, btw, because most Mexicans actually want to be able to legally go back to Mexico after they have earned some money here. But the state and local Dems have a vested interest in keeping them here, so regardless of what Congress does, I don’t think there will be any change.
On that we agree.
I have no problem with a Mexican coming in as a legimate worker.
But they are not eligable for our social benefits, nor to become citizens.
Illegals have given up their ability to become U.S. citizens by ignoring its laws regarding immigration and employment.
Temporary Workers
Employers who wish to hire foreign workers to temporarily perform services or labor or to receive training may file an I-129 petition. The I-129 is mainly used for nonimmigrant categories; thus, in most cases, workers who enter the United States under this petition must depart the U.S. when their maximum period of stay has been reached. Form I-129 may also be used to petition for an extension of stay or change of status for certain nonimmigrants.