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Angry with the system: Penn Yan resident faces deportation
Copyright © 2007 Finger Lakes Times - www.fltimes.com ^ | Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:59 AM CDT | By MIKE MASLANIK

Posted on 05/22/2007 11:25:20 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: doc30

I’ve heard similar stories before, I just don’t buy it.


41 posted on 05/22/2007 12:41:00 PM PDT by rbosque (L)
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To: rbosque

I’ve heard similar stories before, I just don’t buy it.
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Something is fishy. We aren’t getting the whole story. He looks like a visa overstayer who applied to be legal and screwed up. No es mi problema


42 posted on 05/22/2007 12:42:54 PM PDT by dennisw ("Libertarianism is applied autism" - Steve Sailer)
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To: dennisw

That’s what it sounds mike to me. I’ve heard other stories by the MSM to try to give them sympathy. They’re trying to justify the breaking of our laws.


43 posted on 05/22/2007 12:51:12 PM PDT by rbosque (L)
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To: lepton
If this is true, or even close to it, then I'm on his side.

Sounds reasonable enough until you go back and reread this:

“I'm very worried,” Fernando said, with Sadie interpreting for him. “I keep thinking about what's going to happen to my family."

15 years in America and he needs an interpreter? Deport him and good riddance, he never even tried to assimilate.

44 posted on 05/22/2007 1:04:06 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: doc30

That’s not true. You merely have to file papers individually for your children, and not try to get them admitted as your dependents if they are going to turn 21 before your papers are accepted.


45 posted on 05/22/2007 1:04:57 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("By the simple exercise of our will, we can exert a power for good practically unbounded, etc, etc.")
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To: doc30
I did read the article, but there are elements that just don't add up.

From the article:

"He has a legal New York state driver's license and documents that state that his status was approved for review so he thought the citizenship process was still under way."

Trouble is, he "timed out" seven years ago. The burden is on him to make sure that his process is still "under way". If he hasn't heard from them in seven years, and never bothered to check, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for him. Sounds like willful ignorance to me.

Besides, even if he thought he was still being processed under his parents' claim, he had a new legitimate claim to citizenship through his marriage, and should have made that application.

Legal immigration takes a very long time. I'm in the middle of the process and I've been here, legally, for over 12 years! I still have 1-2 years to go based on current USCIS processing times. So if I had any kids 9 years of age or older when I came here, they would not be allowed to be in the country because they would have gotten too old because of processing times!

Maybe so, but he got married to a US Citizen. That means a green card, which takes significantly less time (a year or so), and a temporary work permit (EAD) while he waited for his permanent legal residency to come through. The important thing is that he'll be legal while waiting. Not legal as in "I was legal seven years ago and hope I still am" but honest-to-goodness legal.

Immigration is complicated, but so what? Life is hard. He didn't even make a tiny effort to involve himself in his own process.

46 posted on 05/22/2007 1:30:09 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
No, it's not typical, and yet all too typical:

It's atypical in that he came legally (apparently) with his parents when he was 13. His parents are now citizens.

What's typical is that after 15 years here (and presumably junior high and high school in the US), he doesn't speak good English and didn't bother to inform himself of the law that meant when he became an adult, he had to submit his own paperwork.

Had the guy learned English well, he would have been able easily to determine what he had to do to become a citizen and could have done so.

If only on the grounds that he figured he didn't have to learn English and become a citizen in a timely manner, he should be forceably deported.

Of course, hard cases make bad law, and it will put the wife and kids in a tough position: go to Mexico with hubby or stay here as a single mother. It sucks to be her. But that's not a reason to excuse the man.

47 posted on 05/22/2007 1:33:43 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

This is the typical case in this respect.

Our MASSIVE legal immigration and our lack of enforcement makes it easy for people to be here illegally. This blurs the line between legal and illegal immigrant, to the point where this ‘hard case’ happens often.

Many family have both legal and illegal immigrants in the same household. yet to deport the illegal we get sob story... but it was a choice made by the family.

I question the timing of this story, as we saw the same ‘hard luck’ cases reported last spring. The media wants amnesty and will report any story they can to support that view.

How much mileage will the Fort Dix story get?


48 posted on 05/22/2007 2:11:49 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: doc30

The difference is that you WOULD have a clue as to whether you are in bounds because you’ve been keeping track of it. I have H1B colleagues and others who know when they can and cannot leave the country, who make visits to the consulates when needed, etc. this man had 6 or 7 YEARS to figure out what the heck happened to his application. He never bothered to find out.

I paid tens of thousands in income taxes this year. If I “forgot” to pay my taxes, the visit from the IRS would not be pleasant. I dont consider ignorance an excuse in this matter.

Oh, and the legal immigration system is screwed up in part because of the massive volume of such cases. All the more reason to oppose amnesty, which will swamp the bureaucrats like a Tsunami.


49 posted on 05/22/2007 2:19:37 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
ILLEGAL ALIEN. Law breaker.

That's the point.

50 posted on 05/22/2007 8:21:25 PM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: WOSG
Oh, and the legal immigration system is screwed up in part because of the massive volume of such cases. All the more reason to oppose amnesty, which will swamp the bureaucrats like a Tsunami.

I've heard form my attorney, as wellas from a few other people in the immigration field that the current backlog is a shadow cast from the previous amnesty that Reagan did. That amnesty so overwhelmed the system that the backlogs resulted. USCIS has done much to streamline their work flow, but 20 million illegals applying roughly at the same time is going to grind their current work to a halt. And you know the political pressure will be to legalize the illegals rather than concentrate on a First In First Out approach. And when denials by USCIS start happening, the immigration court system will become backlogged, too. In practice, amnesty will paralyze the immigration system for legal immigration.

I also wonder if the immigration amnesty is a back door quid pro quo for the dems to fund the Iraq war.

51 posted on 05/24/2007 6:06:58 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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