Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: kabar; All
Norman is full of it. Iran is a past and future ally. We should seek regime change without alienating most of the Iranian people who are on our side.

Utter nonsense.

The idea that the Iranian people are 'on our side' is absurd when one considers that the mullahs have had 28 years to brainwash the populace and purge any serious and lingering pro-American sentiment within their society, let alone within whatever passes for a 'government'.

And the extent of control and surveillance of the mullahcracy into everyday Iranian lives far exceeds even the worst excesses of the Shah's regime.

It is all well and good to promote the idea of instigating regime change on Iran by supporting those elements that oppose the mullahs, but that is nothing more than a crap shoot with no guarantee of success, and because we are looking at an impending nuclear Iran, we have to go with a sure bet, not a gamble.

The sure bet is raining destruction from the skies the likes of which Ahmadinejad and his crew have never imagined. It may well be true that the Iranians will 'rally 'round the nutcase' if U.S. bombs begin to fall, and if so - so be it.

The alternative of waiting, waiting, and waiting some more while dubious covert efforts are taken to try and destablize Iran is too risky. In fact, in addition to precisely targeted and limited air strikes on Iran's military and command infrastructure and nuclear sites, an example should be made of Iran for no other reason than they have now taken upon themselves the mantle of 'local big dawg on the block', and think they're calling the shots in the region, so to put them in their proper place, target a nuke on Qom, with Ground Zero at the Jamkaran Mosque where their mythical 'mahdi' is supposed to be hiding in a well.

Literally wipe that city from the face of the Earth, just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If there is to be an uprising against the mullahs, that will provoke it because if their 'holiest Muslim city' is suddenly reduced to radioactive rubble, they will of course blame the United States (and they already blame us for everything so what's the difference?), but they will also blame Ahmadinejad and the mullahs for bringing down such devestation upon them.

That's the plan: Nuke Qom, use nuclear-tipped bunker busters if necessary to take out the hardened nuke sites, destroy Iran's military resources (air, naval, land) with U.S.-based plus Naval-based airpower.

30 days, and Iran will truly become what they've always sought to be: a 9th century power.

And the world can breathe a little easier, if only for a little while.
27 posted on 05/23/2007 12:21:05 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]


To: mkjessup
The idea that the Iranian people are 'on our side' is absurd when one considers that the mullahs have had 28 years to brainwash the populace and purge any serious and lingering pro-American sentiment within their society, let alone within whatever passes for a 'government'.

That just doesn't jibe with the facts on the ground. Iran is a cauldron of dissent and opposition to the rule of the mullahs who have wrecked the economy and oppressed the society. It is the young who are leading the opposition.

Iran: Coping With The World's Highest Rate Of Brain Drain

Given enough small taps, Iran regime will crack

It is all well and good to promote the idea of instigating regime change on Iran by supporting those elements that oppose the mullahs, but that is nothing more than a crap shoot with no guarantee of success, and because we are looking at an impending nuclear Iran, we have to go with a sure bet, not a gamble.

It is more of a gamble to make a military strike that will delay but not prevent Iran eventually getting nuclear weapons. It will mobilize the population against the US and increase nationalism. The Iranians can also buy nuclear weapons whether from North Korea or maybe even Pakistan. The danger Iran poses is the provision of WMD to terrorists not an overt attack against the US or Europe. That would be national suicide.

The sure bet is raining destruction from the skies the likes of which Ahmadinejad and his crew have never imagined. It may well be true that the Iranians will 'rally 'round the nutcase' if U.S. bombs begin to fall, and if so - so be it.

If there is a large, indescriminate attack against Iran with a large amount of collateral damage, then it will be counterproductive. FYI: Ahmadinejad doesn't run Iran, the mullahs do.

The alternative of waiting, waiting, and waiting some more while dubious covert efforts are taken to try and destablize Iran is too risky. In fact, in addition to precisely targeted and limited air strikes on Iran's military and command infrastructure and nuclear sites, an example should be made of Iran for no other reason than they have now taken upon themselves the mantle of 'local big dawg on the block', and think they're calling the shots in the region, so to put them in their proper place, target a nuke on Qom, with Ground Zero at the Jamkaran Mosque where their mythical 'mahdi' is supposed to be hiding in a well.

Now you are just plain nuts. The launching of a US nuclear attack against Iran and against an important religious symbol would invite worldwide condemnation and have far reaching effects upon the world's one billion plus Muslims. And the impact on the flow of oil from the region would send the world economy into a tailspin.

33 posted on 05/23/2007 6:33:34 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies ]

To: mkjessup

You’re right - and, in fact, Podhoretz deals with just that issue in the article. That is, the “feel good” matter of a young, anti-mullah Iranian population. So, some dream on! Meanwhile, in reality the enrichment process continues.


48 posted on 05/23/2007 12:46:31 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies ]

To: mkjessup
Utter nonsense. The idea that the Iranian people are 'on our side' is absurd when one considers that the mullahs have had 28 years to brainwash the populace and purge any serious and lingering pro-American sentiment within their society, let alone within whatever passes for a 'government'.

You are over-stating your case. In fact, most of the Iranian people are pro western if not pro American. Surveys conducted by the Iranian government revealed this several years ago. Nevertheless, I think waiting on them to overthrow Iran is a fool's game. They may never wrest power away from the mullahs and in the meantime the clock ticks.

49 posted on 05/23/2007 1:24:56 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson