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SHOOT COP PINNED IN CRASH CAR
NY POST ^ | 5/23/2007 | MURRAY WEISS; DAN MANGAN

Posted on 05/23/2007 7:24:31 AM PDT by wideawake

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To: wideawake

“I’m surprised that the usual contingent of FR cop-haters hasn’t jumped all over this one.”

Oh ye of little faith......The story was dated 5/23, give ‘em time, they will be on it like flies on s**t before you know it. But the criticism is more likely to come from the other side. Count on it. Reading the headline, I first thought it was my eyes and mind coupled with the fact that my morning coffee had not kicked in. LOL.

It has been my experiance that cop critics are rare here at FR. Since reading the story I am now compelled to go see what the DUmmies are going to say about it. Now THERE you will find cop critics aplenty. I’ll get back to you on that.


21 posted on 05/23/2007 7:42:22 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: wideawake
Smart move on Lora's part. A few years back we had a similar incident in my area in which a stopped car took off from a roadblock. The Officer got his clothing caught when the perp slammed the door shut and was dragged to his death.

Lora did the right thing.
22 posted on 05/23/2007 7:47:53 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Put illegal immigrants on ICE)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Don't illegal immigrants get ID's with their whole names on them?

It's interesting how carefully the newspapers have avoided the usual "undocumented" descriptive.

While I guess it is technically possible that he is a legal immigrant, it seems highly unlikely.

23 posted on 05/23/2007 7:48:37 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: The_Victor

Shot a bronx driver? How about the truth.........HE WAS A F’N ILLEGAL!

Every time another MEXCRIM commits a crime in this area, the media reports him as a resident of whatever town he happened to be driving thru last on his way to commit his next crime.
Why can’t the media tell the truth........ever???


24 posted on 05/23/2007 7:49:43 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
The Officer got his clothing caught when the perp slammed the door shut and was dragged to his death.

That's horrible.

Lora was trying to do the right thing - i.e. get a dangerous drunk off the road and stop him from possibly killing innocent people.

Now he's going to be punished for being courageous and civic-minded.

25 posted on 05/23/2007 7:52:17 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: newcthem

Finaly the truth: HE WAS A F’N ILLEGAL!

Thanks Rudy and Bloomie and the rest of our Criminal Elite!


26 posted on 05/23/2007 7:54:38 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Mr. K
I thought we were generally supportive of Law Enforcement around here... except for the examples of misconduct.

No, there is a large group that think cops can do no wrong, a good sized, but probably smaller group that thinks that cops are always wrong, and the rest of us, many who now avoid these threads, that know that cops can sometimes be good and sometimes be bad.

27 posted on 05/23/2007 7:54:46 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: newcthem

Finaly the truth: HE WAS A F’N ILLEGAL!

Thanks Rudy and Bloomie and the rest of our Criminal Elite!


28 posted on 05/23/2007 7:54:50 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: newcthem
This gentleman was actually from Honduras.

He is quite the "uniter" in his death: he was ethnically black but he also spoke Spanish as his primary language, so both the African-American and Hispanic "community activists" are having a field day.

You wouldn't have gotten the full Reverend Al treatment if the deceased was a Mexican without African ancestry.

29 posted on 05/23/2007 7:55:13 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: wideawake
I like your tag line a bunch...
but you need to relax.

I'm one who has cited police misadventures - because they happen. Neither police nor the legal system in general are without fault in all cases and you only need to be on the wrong end one time.
That said, no one here that I'm aware of is not supportive of the police 99% of the time and I doubt you'll see anyone on FR doing anything but support officer Lora.

30 posted on 05/23/2007 8:03:27 AM PDT by norton
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To: norton
Neither police nor the legal system in general are without fault in all cases and you only need to be on the wrong end one time.

Of course.

However, I was appalled by the vicious posts about NYC police that were all over the threads discussing the Sean Bell shooting.

31 posted on 05/23/2007 8:06:00 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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ping


32 posted on 05/23/2007 9:01:46 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: wideawake
I’m surprised that the usual contingent of FR cop-haters hasn’t jumped all over this one.
Their usual allies - Al Sharpton and Co. - have gotten involved.

Oh, don’t worry they will. But they’ll pass up calling the deaths of those two out west a hate crime. Sharpton will try to make this out as a cop hate crime against blacks. Bloomberg will most likely assist in the hanging.

33 posted on 05/23/2007 9:32:56 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: wideawake
Honduran immigrant supporters claim that the shooting was justified because Lora, 37, was in imminent fear of death. But activists have called for the Manhattan Traffic Task Force cop to be disciplined and criminally charged in Arzu's death.

This is why I would never encourage anyone to be a cop nowadays. Notice how all these immigrants and illegals always have a group of vocal supporters?

Anyone else gets involved in a criminal matter, and the only supporters you'll have is maybe your wife and kids.

The network of "supporters" for immigrants and illegal aliens is just amazing.

34 posted on 05/23/2007 9:40:38 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: wideawake
"...But activists have called for the Manhattan Traffic Task Force cop to be disciplined and criminally charged in Arzu's death..."

Conversely, I call upon liberal assclown activists to be disciplined and criminally charged for the death of common sense, followed by a speedy execution.

35 posted on 05/23/2007 10:02:56 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (Bacon is the only thing that keeps me sane.)
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To: dragnet2
The network of "supporters" for immigrants and illegal aliens is just amazing.

Not really.

There are thousands of illegal immigrants in the Bronx as well as thousands of citizens in the Bronx who just hate the police, period.

It's very easy to get various "community activists" and crowds to protest a police shooting. It's something to do, and you might see yourself on TV!

36 posted on 05/23/2007 10:05:23 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

If he were here legally, he’d have a first and last name in the news report.

It’s not like he’s Madonna, Cher or Elvis.


37 posted on 05/23/2007 10:27:57 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
His name is reported as "Fermin Arzu" elsewhere.

They have his live-in girlfriend on the local news screaming out a poorly-memorized English script that she's been rehearsed in by her attorney.

And it goes a-little something like this: "I am destroyed by this ! Destroyed! Fermin was my life . . . emotionally . . . spiritually . . . I will never be all right again! I need justice! Where is justice?"

I thought the best part was when she collapsed on cue for the camera but they didn't catch it in frame, so she got up, looked around, and collapsed again.

38 posted on 05/23/2007 10:35:50 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right ,Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: wideawake

Unbelievable.


39 posted on 05/23/2007 10:39:39 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: wideawake
Honduran immigrant supporters claim that the shooting was justified because Lora, 37, was in imminent fear of death. But activists have called for the Manhattan Traffic Task Force cop to be disciplined and criminally charged in Arzu's death.

This is why I would never encourage anyone to be a cop nowadays. Notice how all these immigrants and illegals always have a group of vocal supporters? Anyone else gets involved in a criminal matter, and the only supporters you'll have is maybe your wife and kids. The network of "supporters" for immigrants and illegal aliens is just amazing.

Not really.

Are you kidding? Those paying attention have noticed most every time an illegal is involved in an incident near the border, or most anywhere else in this country, the entire Mexican government, and massive networks of Mexican organizations in this country jump on the support wagon.

And I am not just taking about hating the police or police shootings. I am talking about pursuits and most every crime involving immigrants and illegals. There are countless incidents where these support networks come out of the woodwork for these people.

40 posted on 05/23/2007 11:46:25 AM PDT by dragnet2
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